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backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 1 day agoMussolini was killed by Italian partisans, literally the anarchists, socialists, and communists who spent the war fighting the fascists. I honestly don’t care how they die. Want to put ‘em down, use every resource and avenue at your disposal. Truman didn’t kill Nazis, my grandfather did. How he got to Europe doesn’t much matter to me so long as they’re dead. John C. Woods is a hero because the US government tried to give them a clean death, he made them die slowly in agony. Luigi didn’t do it, he was at my house cross-country. Whoever did though… keep up the good fight.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 day ago
I care who kills fascists because I don’t think the government should have the power to kill people. The government will become corrupt if you give it that power. Instead of empowering the state, we should be dismantling it.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 1 day ago
You want the morality of in the moment life or death decisions being morally justifiable and clean cut good guy/bad guy. That’s not how death dealing works. Start the slaughter and the innocent are going to get caught in the crossfire. It’s not just middle aged white men you’re going to face, you’re going to face women and brainwashed children making a desperate last stand where it’s their ideals or yours. Hesitate and they’ll win. Disarm them but hope they’ll swallow the loss and change and they’ll fester until they have the opportunity to stage a comeback. Demand that everyone fight solely for your personal values and you fight alone. I despise tankies and libertarians almost as much as I do fascists, but if I gotta use their help to eradicate the fascists, I’ll take the help I can get and sort their value out later. And if they go down fighting, great, problem solved, hopefully they took out a good ratio before they were eliminated. It’s like watching Christians, Zionists, and jihadists fight- by all means, kill each other. But there’s no clean war, we all suffer the fallout. If you truly have a capacity for interpersonal violence and want go down that path, go for it. Anyone can talk big online anonymously, you know where the haters in your community live, work, and hang-out. Make ‘em suffer. But don’t delude yourself into thinking your actions are going to be ideal, that you’ll always get a ideal enemy, or that your allies are on the same spectrum. Dead Nazis are dead Nazis. Legit question: you and I agree on the idea of death as an option but have some ethical differences on when/where/how. If push comes to shove are you really going to fight me if we’ve got some captured Nazis in cuffs and I want to be done with them?
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 day ago
Depends on the circumstances. I’m fine with killing prisoners during a war, when battle is actively happening and could be here soon. But if we roll into town with a few tanks and they all put their hands up and there are no signs of any other danger, I say no killing. We gotta treat our POWs nicely.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Then you’re not “I think only active combatants should be killed” like you previously mentioned. You’re a step closer to “we’re gonna do some shit to make sure our vision of future humanity becomes the baseline”. You can recognize a Nazi when they reveal themselves. You’re a better person for trying to appeal to their humanity. At some point you just say “fuck you, c’mon and try”. And that effort is not a guarantee of success. A lot of us are going to lose if we do.