I didn’t draw any line. But if you think that physical violence, or an accident (even if caused by stupidity or whatever else) is as bad as an act that is designed to destroy someone completely, then you are part of the problem.
Are you one of those people that defend rapists by saying “innocent until proven guilty”?
But you are not the justice system, you are an individual.
Are you defending Trump every time someone says he’s a rapist? If a cop kills a black guy out of racism, but is found innocent by the court, do you defend him? What about DSK in Europe, that raped a maid for no reason, but wasn’t found guilty because he had a lot of money and influence, yet bribed her after the trial with a huge amount of money so that she doesn’t appeal? What about Matzneff in France, who gets rewards for books where he explains in details how he raped a lot of kids and loved it, do you defend him? All these people are innocent, in the view of the justice system.
If you say no to those, then where do you draw the line? Where is the point where suddenly, the justice system becomes your guide?
Innocent until proven guilty is a huge basis of the justice system, yes. But you supporting victims that declare they have been raped, whether or not the perpetrator has been judged and condemned, is not going to change the justice system.
There’s a big stretch between claiming on a case by case basis that justice has been miscarried, and making a flat out statement that all accused rapists are guilty, which is what your statement would mean.
Solumbran@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I didn’t draw any line. But if you think that physical violence, or an accident (even if caused by stupidity or whatever else) is as bad as an act that is designed to destroy someone completely, then you are part of the problem.
Are you one of those people that defend rapists by saying “innocent until proven guilty”?
6_Electrons@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It would be a terrifying world to live in if it was guilty into proven innocent
Solumbran@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It would be terrifying to be in a world where opinions need to be backed up by a court of law, and yet here we are.
If you don’t believe victims of rape, you’re on the side of the rapists, and I’ll tell you fuck you for that.
And the fact that you had to intervene to say “no but it’s good to defend rapists” says a lot about what your opinion on the matter is.
6_Electrons@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You continue to say some of the craziest things I’ve heard in a long time.
Please continue! What else you got locked up in that dome you’ve been wanting to let loose??
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I was with you until this line popped up out of nowhere. Like, wtf. Yes, that’s the basis of our fucking justice system.
Solumbran@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But you are not the justice system, you are an individual.
Are you defending Trump every time someone says he’s a rapist? If a cop kills a black guy out of racism, but is found innocent by the court, do you defend him? What about DSK in Europe, that raped a maid for no reason, but wasn’t found guilty because he had a lot of money and influence, yet bribed her after the trial with a huge amount of money so that she doesn’t appeal? What about Matzneff in France, who gets rewards for books where he explains in details how he raped a lot of kids and loved it, do you defend him? All these people are innocent, in the view of the justice system.
If you say no to those, then where do you draw the line? Where is the point where suddenly, the justice system becomes your guide?
Innocent until proven guilty is a huge basis of the justice system, yes. But you supporting victims that declare they have been raped, whether or not the perpetrator has been judged and condemned, is not going to change the justice system.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
There’s a big stretch between claiming on a case by case basis that justice has been miscarried, and making a flat out statement that all accused rapists are guilty, which is what your statement would mean.