Comment on We produce more resources than we could ever consume in the least sustainable ways possible.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 week agoYou’re right, we do have to get more radical than just banning cars and planes. I think we should also ban animal agriculture. That’ll fix the animal problem. We can eliminate 40% of concrete emissions with electric furnaces if we invest hard in renewable energy. Obviously, our efforts to create a renewable grid will be aided by banning cryptocurrency, NFTs, and LLMs. And finally, most transport emissions are already eliminated if we consider trucks as a type of car, and use trains instead.
Now, some people may be concerned about a degradation in the quality of life if cars and meat are banned. And for a bunch of so-called capitalists, that’s a startling lack of faith in the invisible hand of the free market! However, I agree that capitalism will not solve all our problems, and I have suggestions for some governmental policies to restore and even exceed our former quality of life!
Bring back trams. Protected bicycle lanes. More trains. 20 hour workweek. It’s not 1910 anymore! We have twice as many people working, so they should work half as long! Government programs to domesticate and improve drought-resistant indigenous crops. Government-run Mastodon, PieFed, Friendica, Loops, and PixelFed servers. You’ve heard of the government cheese caves, now get ready for government vegan cheese. Free dental. Free school lunches. Free fiber internet. Free HRT.
And how are we paying for all of this? Tax the fucking rich!
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
I’d ban animal agriculture only in places where the land can be used to grow crops, but not in places where only grass grows and you can’t really produce enough food without animals. This would also focus on banning factory farming, since now many animals are just fed with feed that’s grown elsewhere and transported into places, which allows to sustain massive populations that wouldn’t be possible without it. But mountain range with sheep and goats? Northern nomads with their reindeer? Homesteading with couple pigs and cows? I see no problem as long as those are sustained by the land (and kept lovingly).
I also would absolutely not ban stuff like keeping chickens (except the factory farming situations of course) since having them on your backyard is good - it produces cheap animal protein that doesn’t really require much killing (eggs) and chickens can eat a lot of food waste that would just be tossed
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
Most people in “civilized” nations might also have forgot it, but cows for example can be incredibly important in places with bad conditions for growing food. You get two years of bad crop yields and everyone is dying of hunger, unless you have that cow that can eat the grass that still grows, and gives you milk that keeps you and your family alive until you get a better yield
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 week ago
As I said above, I’m not an ecofascist. I don’t support mass killing of vulnerable groups on the grounds of ecological efficiency. I don’t believe in the superiority of one lineage or genetic population over another. And because I believe in Mister Darwin’s good theory on the origin of species, I extend this lack of belief in genetic superiority to our cousins in the animal kingdom. I do not think humans have the right to declare themselves superior to their cousins on the basis of some idea of better genes or superior lineage.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
Animal husbandry is not an unique thing to humans only. I think it’s incredibly arrogant to think we’re so above nature we aren’t part of it just like ants, rodents, deer or tigers or whatever are. We should strive for eating as few animal products we can since we’re killing the planet with our over-consumption - and factory farming is a grotesque crime against nature. But some random siberian nomad with their reindeer is living way more sustainably than any vegan that’s sitting on a computer and writing here is.
Farming always requires killing, even if it’s just growing crops. Just controlling the rodent populations alone means either poison or cats. And the bigger the operations, the more you need to kill
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 week ago
Would you eat a human? Would you farm humans? Breed and raise them so you can eat them?