Comment on What is a game you can’t understand why its so popular ?
Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 day ago
I can understand basically any game’s audience because I can understand three things: masochism, operand conditioning, and social pressure. Souls games are just an absurd level of self flagellation. Grind games are just a process of rewarding a behaviour over longer and longer times to trick you into thinking you are doing something fun when you get to the release point. Social pressure takes individual tastes and grinds them away because if you want to have friends they will naturally congregate in cheap friendslop games because shit’s expensive and tastes vary, but any gamer crew can afford $7 a piece to have something mediocre to complain about together.
RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Any time I see someone referring to souls likes as self-flagellation or something else along those lines, I gotta wonder: have you ever overcome something difficult? The satisfaction it gives most people should make it easy to understand without just going “you must love to torture yourself”.
The fact that you can find tons of souls players who are constantly complaining about unfun, bullshit bosses (cough Bed of Chaos or Micolash cough) just shows that’s we aren’t all just in it for the punishment.
Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 day ago
It doesn’t give satisfaction as itself. It gives satisfaction after the fact in the same way a man who was abused for years as a child can say ‘I’m glad my dad beat the shit out of me because it built character.’ He’s not lying. He really believes it. But if you measured his happiness at any point in the abuse, and even after he reaches the stage where he can say that, it’s not going to be positive. If souls players are masochists, they are at least enjoying themselves. If they aren’t enjoying themselves, they’re just… what? Manipulated? Victims of social pressure? Delusional? Masochism is actually the least awful interpretation of why someone would do something they don’t enjoy. Take masochism as a win.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Not for you maybe. Because you refuse to see anything beyond “oh they just hate themselves, they’re abuse victims”.
Like most games. It’s a journey, there’s a story waiting to be told. All you have to do is ask the questions.
Some people enjoy the journey you take together with your character. And by the end, you realise that it wasn’t just your character that became stronger. It was you that became stronger. And the castle that’s in ruins is that way for a purpose. Something happened to it. And if you want to discover what that something is. You can.
But you seem like the person that can’t comprehend why someone wants to climb a mountain. Why not just take a helicopter to the top?