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Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this

Yes I do, and I do, but I also like minimizing the bias of sources. Of course you would hold good relationships with people who support you specifically becuase they want to throw a wrench in other countries, re the black panthers. If I hated the us, and i was a country I would absolutely fund and support organizations that were a thorn in the side of the country I hate, it is logical. The “evidence” you’re providing is literally just bias in favour of. There is no critique from you regarding the ruling class, incessant defense of oppressors, just with a different flavour is still defending oppressors

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Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
This is, again, nonsense. Do better.

The Black Panther Party was not the only group to maintain ties with the DPRK. Cuba was already allied with the DPRK and has remained extremely close, and the DPRK aided numerous African liberation movements Castro had this to say of Kim Ill-Sung:

Comrade Kim Il Sung, our closest brother and friend, has shown deep concern for us. He is a model of genuine internationalist.

He was the first to provide Cuba with unstinting political and material support when it was in the most difficult situation. We will never forget the care he shows for the Cuban people.

Those who met you Comrade Kim Il Sung expressed their feelings of respect and admiration for you, saying that you are so modest, sentimental, passionate and kind. Every time I heard them, I could not repress my urge to visit your country to see you. You were already fighting against the Japanese imperialists when I was born. So I took it as my due obligation to visit you.

You keep framing this as purely being self-interest, with no actual care for the people. To that I ask, why is it that these movements all happened to be on the side of justice? Why is it that the DPRK continued to retain ties with some of the most socially progressive countries on the planet, and enmeshed itself with liberation movements globally, if it was only concerned with “Realpolitik?” Even if we all call it self-interest, it doesn’t change the fact that this self-interest was in aiding liberation!

Regarding my sources being “bias,” again, this is nonsense. I am giving you hard evidence explaining exactly how the DPRK works, why it is so propagandized against, and how this propaganda works. I am always opposed to the bourgeoisie, I clearly critique capitalism and support socialism. Simply stating that socialist states are “oppressors, just with a different flavour” is the peak of ignorance when it comes to the massive gains made by the working classes once they take control of the state and can run society in their own interests.

Do better.

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- T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  Do better
  
  After you
  
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  - Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I just gave you several well-sourced comments giving an approachable introduction to the systemic demonization of the DPRK, as well as a brief intro on how the electoral system works, and numerous articles, books, and documentaries to choose from, including Wikipedia. How on Earth could I do better for you? Stoop to your level and just say “you’re clearly wrong?”
    
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    T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Cheese and crackers. You just aren’t getting it. Alright well I don’t know how I can make it more clear. Have a good day all the best to you
    
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