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• Pissed@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  When it comes to the governments they’re spying on, I’d say yeah it’s a decent source. Whether ALL agents who were spying on the USSR were saying this is a different matter.

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  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah, no the cia isn’t a great source. Its like saying the kgb is a great source, sure there could be some validity, but overall it’s a propaganda machine

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    • Pissed@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Lol intelligence agencies internal documents aren’t part of the propaganda machine why would the CIA produce pro Stalin propaganda? OK maybe there was a double agent in the CIA that could be possible, but to say that they produce propaganda internally to show each other is a very weird thing to say. What’s the point of having an intelligence agency that classifies its documents if they’re just going to publish lies internally? You have the press to publish propaganda. I’m sorry your argument is just really bad. If you wanted to make a good argument you would go into the files and check what other agents were saying and cross reference them with this report, not just dismiss it because it came from the CIA. Most historians would give both their hands to have access to classified documents there is a reason why documents like this stay classified. I assume all this stuff was declassified after the Cold War

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      There is a cool video about Marx guess what it draws from classified documents that various police agencies in Europe had on Marx (some of them are still classified BTW) why the fuck would spies waste their time producing propaganda for other spies on their own side?

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      • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Great. Did you read about how I said “some validity”? Doubtful

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    • Pissed@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You do realise these are internal documents right? I’d say an intelligence agencies declassified documents are an amazing source.

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      • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Are you saying the MKULTRA files were from a bad source?

        Yes, if you ignore what I said about some validity

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