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Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

And that’s why you need a democratic process and not a dictatorship that decides unilaterally what is fine.

On the other hand, if you protect the nazis, you are one of them and you are letting them oppress whoever they want.

Personally, I know what side I prefer.

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TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
you want dictatorship of the majority? That just means minority groups (which may be the more moral group, eg anti slavery in the past, women’s rights in the past, lgbt+ rights now, vegans now) will be oppressed instead. To protect minorities you need absolute free speech, not just democracy

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- Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I said a democratic process, not a majority vote. To protect minorities you need laws that protect minorities and individual rights, freedom of speech is secondary, and actually often contradicting with the first part of my sentence.
  
  It’s no mystery why the ones throwing “freedom of speech” all day long in all conversations are the nazis. If freedom of speech is king, then hate speech is tolerated. What needs to be of the utmost importance is the respect of individuals, and freedom of speech becomes a consequence of that.
  
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  - TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    How can minorities exist if they don’t have the freedom to express their minority opinions even if they’re 'hateful" to others? It sounds like only sanctioned minorities would be protected under your system, which makes no sense.
    
    What about hating billionaires, I expect you would think that 'hate speech " is fine?
    
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    Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    If individuals are respected, then their minority opinions will be fine as long as they are not breaking the rule of not blocking other’s freedoms.
    
    Billionaires are in many way hostile to society as a whole, and destroy the freedom of most people, by choice. Nothing forces them to do it, they aren’t born that way or whatever else, and they are breaking the rule of respecting other’s freedom; as such hating on billionaires is not hate speech, because they broke the rule first and are doing it willingly and with complete choice over the matter.
    
    But you’re right, there shouldn’t be hate speech against billionaires, because they shouldn’t be allowed to exist.
    
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Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Clearly you’ve never heard of plurality

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