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• mattyroses@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Capital has always been formed by exploitation - you cannot have a surplus without paying workers less than they create, it’s an accounting relationship.

  That said, the amount of income disparity in “communist” countries has generally been much less than capitalist ones.

  As far as oppression, it depends how you define that. But if you want to look at the amount of incarceration (a good measure), the US not only is greater than any socialist nation’s average, but even the worst of the Stalinist Great Purge. And this ignores just how cruel capitalism is in the global south to make those profits.

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  • Hawanja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That said, the amount of income disparity in “communist” countries has generally been much less than capitalist ones.

    The only thing I disagree with is this.

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    • mattyroses@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok, where’s your data?

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      • Hawanja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What, you want me to do the work for you? I don’t work for free.

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• Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  According to who exactly?

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  • Hawanja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The people who live(d) there.

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Anyone living anywhere can believe any delusional nonsense they want, pics or gtfo loser

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      • Hawanja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I mean yeah, you can believe China and the USSR weren’t poverty stricken totalitarian hellholes, it’s a free country.
        Which is ironic becasue in those countries you would not be free to hold that opinion.

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• Alloi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  there are no communist countries in the world. and there never has been. communism has never been achieved anywhere.

  what you are referring to are authoritarian state capitalist societies. they may be communist/socialist in name, just not in praxis.

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  • Hawanja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks! Tell that to all the people defending China and the USSR please.

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