RANKED CHOICE VOTING
Comment on UK at risk of ‘failed election’ without major reforms, watchdog warns
echo64@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s hard to imagine a world where voting reform happens. We all know what we need. Scrapped or massively widened voter ID and proportional representation. But everyone who has the power to change these things will have gotten their job from the current state. They don’t want to change what worked for them.
Nudding@lemmy.world 11 months ago
TheMongoose@kbin.social 11 months ago
We had a chance for that, but the electorate was too stupid to vote for it anyway.
Referendums. Huh. What are they good for? Fucking over the rest of us, that's what.
andthenthreemore@startrek.website 11 months ago
The only way I can see it is with lib dems as a coalition partner. For a time a while ago it looked like that might be possible. But then the Tories kept shitting the bed the the point it looks like a labour landslide is incoming.
byroon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The problem is the LibDems already had their chance at this and completely screwed it up, ruining their credibility
andthenthreemore@startrek.website 11 months ago
Yeah sadly so. It’s still the only long shot I can see. Unless labour actually manages to remember that the current system only seems to let them in once every twenty odd years.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Mixed Member PR is the way to go, like New Zealand and Germany. Then there is still local MPs.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Do you actually feel any benifit from local MPs under fptp.
Seems party whips make them of no real value locall
jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
It’s someone you can go see, or write to, to help you with issues. A point of contact.
But I do think party whips need to go. If parties can’t hold together without the whips, maybe they shouldn’t be held together.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 11 months ago
As long as your issue fits the party line. If not its someone who will go out of their way to avoid answering the question. Or just send out form letters that are of no value.
Unfortunatly with the current system. If your MPs is tory nothing is done about anything because 99% of issues are austerity related.
As for labour. Currently they dont seem to have a party line beyond being competent non corrupt tories.
Seriously in 50 plus years. I have never known anyone who had a positive result from seeking an MPs help. Just the same crap answers you hear from national figures.
Local politicians are more help. Or at least were before austerity hit them so hard.
byroon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t but it is the argument that people always make against introducing PR
wewbull@feddit.uk 11 months ago
…and there’s multiple ways of achieving it. It’s a valid criticism of a number of PR systems, so I don’t see why you wouldn’t choose a PR system that doesn’t have the issue.
I like STV with multi-member constituencies. You merge a number of existing neighbouring constituencies together (Say 5) and vote to elect 5 representatives for that new large constituency based on people’s ranked preferences. There’s a few things I like about it:
- It avoids the “Party List” concept, which is just the ultimate safe seat.
- It still allows for independent candidates, as party affiliation is not a material concern in any aspect of the election.
- It gives people a choice of representatives. Ever lived in a constituency where your MP doesn’t share your values? Well, now you have a much better chance of at least one of them being on your side of an argument.
- People can vote for candidates who have “no chance” of winning, safe in the knowledge that their 2nd/3rd/4th preference will still get their support if their first preference is eliminated.
byroon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Most steps toward democracy in the UK have come after massive nationwide civil disobedience