Comment on 30 seconds after an "Anarchist" brings up Israel:

• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And he is correct because he actually spent time learning about it.

  As someone living in Germany, I can confidently tell you:

  Nah.

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  • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A majority of leftists think antisemitism begins when with „gas the Jews“.

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    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So for you antisemitism starts with “jews are not allowed to genocide arabs”, huh?

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      • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nope.

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lol hasbara back at it

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• Diva@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• Micromot@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Quite a few haven’t understood it, despite having learned about it

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  • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Antisemitism is bad. Antisemitism is when Nazis gas Jews in Auschwitz.

    That‘s a widespread opinion, also among the left. Leftists typically consider themselves immune from antisemitism because they aren’t Nazis and the good guys. They are ignorant about the difference between antisemitism and racism.

    They will of course remember Auschwitz performatively, and invoke it as a political tool whenever convenient.

    People Love Dead Jews because they don’t speak up, aren’t annoying, can be used to virtue signal, and as political tool.

    A great quote by Israeli psychoanalyst Zvi Rex fits here as.

    Germans will never forgive the Jews for the Holocaust.

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    • Micromot@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Antisemitism is when Jews are attacked for being Jews.

      It can happen and happens outside of the holocaust and should be taken seriously.

      There is the misunderstanding you said and also some Germans famously know as anti-Deutsche or antigermans that are of the opinion that any criticism of the actions of the Israeli government is antisemitism because it is a Jewish ethnostate. They also sometimes/often think that the Germans are antisemitic by their existence and bloodline

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      • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        See, just as I said. You draw the line at attacks. Would you define racism as being attacks against racialized people? Antisemitism starts with the rumor about the Jews. That’s what legitimizes the marginalization and violence.

        This is the difference how leftists typically deal with accusations of bigotry:

        Black person: „That’s racist!“

        Leftist: „Of course your lived experience matters!“

        Jewish person: „That’s antisemitic!“

        Leftist: „ANTIZIONISM ISNT ANTISEMITISM! SHUT UP ZIONAZI! DEATH TO ISRAHELL!“

        antigermans that are of the opinion that any criticism of the actions of the Israeli government is antisemitism because it is a Jewish ethnostate

        That’s often repeated but incorrect. Criticism is fine. Israelis, Zionists, and antigermans criticize Israel all the time.

        It crosses the line when demanding Israel‘s violent destruction and with it the death of millions of Jews for example.

        Holding Israel to a different standard than all other countries can be an expression of antisemitism as well. Denying only the Jewish people the right to self determination is common for example.

        Repeating antisemitic conspiracy theories and tropes doesn’t stop being antisemitic, if the word Jews are swapped for Zionists. That’s what neo-Nazis have been doing for decades. Today the anti Israel left uncritically uses the exact same phrases and terms they have established.

        Holocaust inversion has also become disturbingly widespread.

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• Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  bending over backwards to protect a genocidal, imperialist power

  Is this a direct reference to you?

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