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Jmdatcs@lemmy.world 5 days agoNo, what I, and everyone what that has actually been to factories and rural areas of China, has seen is what’s actually happening on the ground. You’re nothing more than a neolib apologist with an Eastern fetish.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
All you’ve mentioned is that you’ve seen poverty, which I already explained why it exists, and you’ve already explained why you believe it will go away eventually. We both know China is working to remove this with massive social programs. You have not once explained how China is “neoliberal,” nor what you believe socialism to be. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, I hate neoliberalism like what Reagan and Thatcher installed, and neoliberalism is lightyears away from China’s Socialist Market Economy.
Please, explain what you believe socialism to be, and where you got that idea from. Explain how China is “neoliberal” beyond the vanishing presence of rural poverty.
Jmdatcs@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Dude, neoliberalism is a huge range, not just those douches. Just because they’re not (currently) as bad as Regan/Thatcher doesn’t mean they’re not neolibs. I’m sure you’ve got tons of copypastas ready to go, but none of them change the fact that China is a great place to be rich and get richer but if you’re poor, the best you can hope for is that your grandchildren have a better life built on the backs of exploited Africans and others in the global south.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
You didn’t answer my questions in any capacity. Please, explain what you believe socialism to be, and where you got that idea from. Explain how China is “neoliberal” beyond the vanishing presence of rural poverty.
Jmdatcs@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yeah, because I don’t want to. I’m not going to get involved in a discussion of definitions of words with someone that lives in a bubble with their own alternate definitions created to support their circular reasoning.
Their poverty is vanishing because they’re exporting it by exploiting others. If you look at China and honestly see “socialism,” or even “working toward socialism,” you’re either painfully ignorant or mentally ill.