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unitedwithme@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  No worries, all this IT stuff is going away with the banning of VPNs

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• Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Enterprise and SMB always have practical workarounds that consumers do not need to deal with.

  The only way to create a local user account on windows 11 now without fuckery is pretending you are going to domain join. No other method exists without under the hood tweaks. A similar workaround would work.

  But none of this actually protects kids. The goal is to have total surveillance over as many users as possible in their home life. Enterprise is already handled by m365 and google workspace after all.

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  • Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The only way to create a local user account on windows 11 now without fuckery is pretending you are going to domain join. No other method exists without under the hood tweaks. A similar workaround would work.

    Depending on your definition of “under the hood”, this isn’t really accurate. You can invoke CMD to create an account or enter Audit mode to do the same. Neither of these methods require preparation of separate installation media.

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    • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yes, invoking a command prompt to enter a command is under the hood for most users.

      I work in IT, I know all the tricks. I also know how users tend to behave. Anyone who is tech savvy can figure out the ins and outs and get around all manner of things. If you just follow what you can click on screen and stick strictly to GUI and zero customized OOBE tweaks you have no other option.

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      • Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I was mostly stuck on the “the only way” part of your comment. In terms of accessibility, I don’t know that the domain method would really be any better - not to mention that it’s limited to Pro/Enterprise Windows editions that most consumers aren’t getting.

        The audit mode path is more GUI friendly but, similar to the Domain option, still requires pre-existing knowledge or web search.

        Here’s hoping Microsoft actually follows through on loosening this restriction, even though I largely hold the position that basic users’ security benefits from the MS Account setup.

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  • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Can’t you only join a domain on the Pro versions of Windows, too?

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  • unitedwithme@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ohhh trust me I know it’s all about surveillance. I’m just meaning they’re going to negatively impact everyone everywhere without a second thought because they’ll get what they want in the end. Either more money or more reelections

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But I don’t use windows 11, still using a local account just fine.

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    • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I use CachyOS, but for the vanilla home user “I bought a laptop!” at bestbuy or whatever the fuck, there’s no local account option anymore. It’s connect to the internet and sign in with microsoft, and nag you constantly every 3 days until you activate onedrive and other microsoft services.

      I got an ARM64 laptop through work to test to see how it might work as an experiment and this has been how the device behaves from day 1. It’s a nightmare.

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Does windows no longer let you use a PC without the internet?

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