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• null@piefed.nullspace.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  first, not ml’s, progressives.

  Hasan is an open ML, and you’re saying the Dems need people sharing his views to get votes.

  second, they need the more votes, and courting the right is insufficient. that’s backed by their internal report, and their losses with their preferred candidates.

  Source?

  third, they are not doing their job because they do not counter the republican party. they waste their time instead maintaining power of corporate democrats

  Do not counter the Republican party how? They don’t have the seats…

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  • WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    lemmy.world/post/45610837

    1. no he isn’t, he is a self proclaimed democratic socialist.
    2. democraticautopsy.org/…/Autopsy-2024-How-Democrat…
    3. based on institutional self suppression, alignment to their corporate doaners, the abandonment of leverage such as the shut down, refusal to leverage the rejection of the genocide in gaza, this with the report show an unwillingness to do anything, not an incapability.

    the government shut down was gaining political traction and leverage with the progressive vote for progressive candidates. they _immediately _ abandoned all leverage once this was clear, and gave in to all republican demands signaling that progressive control was more dangerous to party control.

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    • null@piefed.nullspace.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      1. He has literally talked about the end goal being Communism. He’s an ML.
      2. This is largely an opinion peice, and also does not draw the conclusion that Democrats lost because they didn’t cater to MLs
      3. Cool opinion

      I didn’t say dems are perfect, or haven’t been dropping the ball.

      I’m making the case that courting someone who’s goal is to promote communism and who’s anti-liberal views are completely at odds with the party is obviously not of interest or a good move for the Dems.

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      • WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        my argument have never been that the democrats needed to interface at all with Hassan, but they are spending their efforts into attacking him as a further battle against the growing progressive base. this includes astro turfing false narratives against him that you have brought up.

        my point is that they are not merely dropping the ball, that they are making a concerted effort to court the right and fighting to prevent progressives from gaining sway over the party.

        the argument that the report is an “opinion” is in bad faith. its methodology is sound, its conclusions are measurable and it collates to democratic actions in giving up the sit down. and is backed by the establishment actively attempting to suppress it

        these are not dropping the ball, this is a pattern of internal alignment with the republicans over their own base.

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