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ddplf@szmer.info ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Aren’t “culture war leftists” just liberals?

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  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think many of them are left libertarians, like libertarian socialists and anarchists. It seems to me that libertarianism, whether left or right, is just liberalism taken to its logical extreme. Libertarians do seem to be focused primarily on individual rights, liberties and freedoms. I think that focus on individual freedom can impede their ability to really organize with a lot of other working class people, because it seems to me that often working class people tend to be more “conservative,” as in they have a less, let’s say, permissive attitude about individual expression.

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    • Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t necessarily disagree but I don’t really get what libertarian socialists and libertarian anarchists are. I mean, anarchists are inherently focused on personal liberty while socialists are inherently focused on the betterment of society as a whole, no?

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      • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t really get what libertarian socialists and libertarian anarchists are.

        I’m not sure I understand it myself. There’s a lot about libertarianism, both left and right that I don’t fully understand or agree with.

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  • ddplf@szmer.info ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No.

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    • Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Focusing on culture war topics instead of addressing our mode of production (aka capitalism) sounds like a liberal though

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    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So they must be conservatives.

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