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OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

A couple of years sounds nice but no fully anarchist society has ever overthrown a state and remained stable long-term at a national level.

I get that its more of a ‘process of radical change’ rather than an objective ‘end goal’, but i always thought anarchy was strangely way too optimistic about human cooperation. No rules (obviously there would have to be some), police or concept of state? With the amount of people ive encountered on this planet, that requires everyone to think exactly the same or change their views accordingly at the same exact time. Oof good luck with that

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bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Anarchists believe in rules, we just don’t believe in rulers. We believe that the people who live and work in a place should decide the rules of that place, rather than the king or billionaire or whoever.

You should check out the Q&Anarchy video series, it addresses all of the concerns you have, and then some.

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- OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Doesnt address the insane amount of optimism with no long-term proof. Zapatista sounds great, but they are focused on the self-determination of indigenous Mayan communities. Its small and niche, different to an entire country with different races all mixed in with different views
  
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  - bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Anarchism is completely compatible with individuals acting according to their self interest - indeed, egoist anarchism is entirely centered around that concept, but other anarchist traditions are fully compatible with self-interest. An incredible amount of optimism in human co-operation and selflessness is not necessary.
    
    they are focused on the self-determination of indigenous Mayan communities
    
    You’ve unintentionally touched on what makes anarchism so stable - by its very nature because it is built by the people who live and work in an area, it can be perfectly attuned to meet their needs! An anarchist society formed in a city would be completely different from one formed in the rural countryside. It is not an imposed blueprint for society that follows some dogma, it’s an approach where everyone involved in the society has a say in how it’s run, and no one has power over others. That’s all!
    
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    OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    So stable*
    
    *for a couple of years
    
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the_abecedarian@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
read some of the links OP helpfully posted to clear up the misconceptions about anarchism you display in your comment

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