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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I can’t remember the previous ones, just remember that I’ve disagreed with them and just rolled my eyes at them… but this one is obvious: “liberals” are just diet Western imperialists, who stand for nothing but the status quo and care for nothing but the bag (at least being a racist white supremacist POS has a veneer of ideology behind it, the dumbest of their group truly believe they’re “standing for something”). Idk what was confusing about it or how that ended up in you calling OP a “red fascist”, lol.

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TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You subscribe to a couple of toxic ideas which need to burn in hell:

Political labels are super useful as long as you get to define them and no one else has any say in what they mean to them personally. Even though clearly people are more complicated than that.

You get to freely apply these labels as you see fit. If someone disagrees with you, boom, they’re a liberal. Which really just means bad.
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- ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  That’s not true, you can fit many labels which I disagree with ideologically and morally (so, yeah, “bad”), not just “liberal”. You could be/call yourself a “Zionist” or otherwise “Western imperialist”, or just imperialistic, or you could be a “nationalist”, a “Christian right-winger”, or a Republican/Democrat, or even a “realpolitik pragmatist”.
  
  And out of curiosity, do you believe in Hell or is that just an expression? Liberals are known to stand for nothing, so it would shock me if you did.
  
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  - TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I am correct. You allow for no other interpretation of what a liberal is besides what you say it is.
    
    Hell is used metaphorically, as it even was in religious texts. But if I believed a metaphor were concrete and real, it’s beyond obvious we’re living in it now. Please do not try to turn this into a weird religious debate because I used an incredibly common expression, about which I’ve no doubt whatsoever which you knew the meaning of.
    
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    ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I won’t, it’s a waste of both of our times and I’m not that much of a maniac, lol. But we hardly live in Hell (unless you’re in Gaza or Lebanon, idk, in that case I understand your perception of things). Again, I have defined liberal very narrowly: Western imperialists who deny it (to themselves and others), and with better PR and “softer approaches” that aren’t as obviously morally disgusting. It’s not just a catch-all term for everyone who’s danger to the global community.
    
    But assuming I’m wrong, could you provide me with at least two examples of self-proclaimed “liberals” who are representative of the ideology and tell me which things they did that you approve of and did not support the status quo of Western global oppression ?
    
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