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• DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nit to start an argument but why would one want to be using Google Pay after going through the process of de-googling their phone? Seems counterproductive.

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  • Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fair point. Is there an alternative to Google pay. I don’t use a card and pretty much refuse to use anywhere that requires care or cash

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    • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are a few different ones. I highly recommend doing your own research to find one you’re comfortable with; reading multiple different reviews of each and whatnot. But here’s a site specialising in finding alternatives to services

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      • JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Every alternative except Apple and Samsung pay, which are device specific and proprietary, seem to just be crypto. No NFC FOSS purchases.

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    • phoneymouse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So many cards have an nfc chip in them now. Just tap the physical card.

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      • Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t want to tap the card. Point of preference. I don’t have a wallet. I have a phone.

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• TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Google Pay gives you worse consumer rights than using your card with contactless. A contactless card purchase is processed as “cardholder not present”, the same as phone catalogue purchases always used to be done, and the same as online purchases. The seller assumes default responsibility in any dispute. When you make a purchase with your card pin, or when you make a purchase with Google Pay, both are considered secure and authorised by you, so that becomes the default position in a dispute.

  If someone steals your card and uses it to make a bunch of contactless purchases, you’d have a much easier time getting them refunded than if the purchases were made with your phone.

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  • Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How would they use my phone? It’s locked and requires fingerprint to unlock? Card requires nothing. Can lock down phone. Can lock card but need to contact bank.

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    • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fingerprint is fairly easy to bypass, face unlock sometimes moreso. A PIN or password can be captured by just watching someone, and you’ll have far more opportunity to capture their phone PIN than you would their card PIN. If anything, you’re perhaps less likely to lose your card as it spends more time safe in your pocket.

      The point is it can be done, and you’re in a worse position if/when it happens.

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      • Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sorry. Where are fingerprint readers easy to crack ? Maybe government agencies and high level crime syndicates. Not petty thief’s. I don’t use phone pin. I use fingerprint as discussed.

        I don’t use card pin so that’s not an issue. The problem would be a contactless card. Which is the debate we are currently engaged in.

        So no. I’ll stick with my phone using Google pay. I had my card skimmed with a card reader and my bank emptied. Funnily enough has never happened with my phone.

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