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BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

You can definitely change the world, have you ever heard of history? It’s full of revolutions, the french revolution, the civil rights movement, the workers rights movement / unions. How do you think, we achieved this relatively good living standard in the last 50 years?

Shure, changing the world will be hard as fuck and it could be years until you see any positive change from your behaviour, maybe your actions will only bear fruit after you died.

But the only thing we can / we have to do is try.

And attitudes like yours are exactly what fascists are counting on.

If you don’t want to do anything and just stick your head into the sand, I can’t stop you, I guess, but stop pretending you didn’t have a choice.

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OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The difference in attitudes from a decade ago is 180 degrees backwards. Young people and academics are where revolutions begin or end. Those people have been demoralized and pacified.

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- BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You can still be part of the change.
  
  And also that is a gross overgeneralisation, it’s not like schools were full of revolutionaries a decade ago, and today I definitely feel like more people are ready to do something, especially since Trump took office.
  
  Just look at the success of Mamdani or the no Kings protests.
  
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Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
This is the delusion im talking about. It’s completely baffling to me how people can take something that has a 99,99% failure rate and assume they’re the 0,01% and that’s not limited to politics. People constantly do it with every single aspect of life.

You’re using a survivorship bias and seeing only the ones that succeeded and ignoring all the ones that failed or didn’t even get off the ground to be heard of.

I’m fairly sure not a single one of those were started by a single individual either. These were all started by groups of like minded individuals and I’m not even in a country where there are enough people to get started with any movement.

I’m not sticking my head in the sand. I’m just not delusional to assume there’s a realistic possibility to affdct any change even if I’d were to dedicate rest of my life to it. I don’t assume I’m special.

We’re all just cogs in the machine. Yeah sure we can somewhat change in which part of the machine we are and have a cleaner conscious, but it will not stop the machine.

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- Shanmugha@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  We can also somewhat break the undesired behaviour of the machine (be unreliable cogs). So yeah, a little freedom we have still
  
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  - Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    And how much of an effect beyond self satisfaction that has? It will more likely disproportionately effect people close to you/reliant on you than have any effect on the machine.
    
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    Shanmugha@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Have enough unreliable cogs in the machine and it won’t do what you want. Yes, this is again a plan for long after we die, but doing something good is still worth it
    
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    LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    It’s the same argument for why it’s OK to sell drugs. Someone is going to do it anyway, me selling crack is not going to change anything meaningful, so I might as well do it.
    
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Shanmugha@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Shure, changing the world will be hard as fuck and it could be years until you see any positive change

No. For people without needed capability (read: 99.(9) of all people on the planet) changing the world means “you will most likely die trying, and might amount to something, but may as well not”. And building said capability is again close to a full lifetime of work, if not more

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- BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I feel like, that’s exactly what I said
  
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  - Shanmugha@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Then I’ve misread you, as “you have a decent shot to do it if you try hard enough”. World won’t change much because of me, but I will make sure to be a drop of change for the better
    
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    BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Also, something I’d like to add (it may seem contrary to what I said before, but it stems from the same line of thinking).
    
    Everyone changes the world, for better or worse.
    
    It doesn’t have to be a revolution or anything, you can change the world in so many ways.
    
    The most important thing is to be an upstanding, good person. You can change the world through community, you can help your friends out, when they are in trouble. You can help your friends through just having a good time with them. You can reflect on life with the people you love, try to offer them new perspectives. You can help random strangers. You can make inspiring art.
    
    You can raise confident, smart children, that may change the world themselves one day, either as a parent or a caregiver or teacher.
    
    Fundamentally, Facism is about hate and left wing ideas are about love. So we can win by just increasing empathy in the world.
    
    For me, I believe that free software can liberate us, and also I just love to code and be a nerd. So I contribute to free software projects online, I helped my mom and a friend of mine install Linux. I helped my scouts move to Nextcloud and Jitsi.
    
    Change is about exploring new ways to use any skills you have to make small impact, which will maybe eventually bear bigger fruit than you might have thought. And if not, then you just made your life, or maybe the life of people you love a bit better, and that’s also great.
    
    Of course, it’s also great to go to demonstrations, join political orgs etc. I just found for me, that I don’t have that kind of energy in me, so I focus on other things. That might also change someday.
    
    Changing the world is mostly about your attitude on life.
    
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