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SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 days agoAny pointers other than “go read some internet”? That’s a rather broad reference.
John Shadyman’s wallet gets tied to people tied to you
What “people tied to you”? I use the coins to pay some 1337Cr1m3L0rd, with neither of us ever catching a remote semblance of knowing who the other one is. John Shadyman is actually the closest link to me, but again good luck proving that I went to his house and received coins for cash.
hansolo@lemmy.today 1 day ago
The pointers are that a lot of people track crypto wallets, it’s not hard to do, and that any wallet ever tied to an ID is directly identified. So any other wallet that touches those wallets gets pulled into a network cluster. Network analysis tools are decades old. Patterns get established. So your wallet isn’t any safer than Johnny Shadyshit and his wallet once they connect. You think Johnny won’t ever get rolled? You trust them to be invincible?
Just use Monero or cash.
thecoinomist.com/…/crypto-osint-how-crypto-and-io…
acfcs.org/acfcs-contributor-report-bitcoin-tracki…
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What you wrote right there is “Once a drug dealer is busted, it’s immediately known who ever bought drugs from them with cash”. Do you seriously not realize that it’s a loony thing to say?
Using monero or tumblers after buying the coins is of course a good advice in case the seller is a plant. But it doesn’t mean that his coins are somehow magically connected to me when he’s not a plant.
hansolo@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I really don’t think you understand how deep KYC goes, and how patterns get established based on wallets. This is not “loony” stuff- OSINT people do this in their spare time. Your wallet is tracked and known and connected to your dealer already by people. But hey, you do you. Just remember that you have been warned three times.
First off, read the Privacy Guides recommendations for crypto: Monero only as it provides privacy by default. www.privacyguides.org/en/cryptocurrency/
Second, have you done KYC anywhere else? That CAN get connected indirectly to your wallet. How do you GET cash to pay Johnny Shadyshit? Did you pull out enough to also match that cash in the amounts paid by Shadyshit to a wallet within the same general time frame? Feds have this records, and if they roll Johnny, that’s classic data they use to build a case. Did someone stupid that your dealer sells to have their girlfriend deposit money from Coinbase and send the exact same amount to their boyfriend who send the same amount to the dealer? They’re connected to you, too. People you’ve never MET are making nodes on the network mapping. discuss.privacyguides.net/t/…/36366
My guy, you might as well keep going with what you’re doing. Fighting with anyone about it is straight up foolish in the face of everything I’ve showing you. But remember, you’re taking a risk to maybe/maybe not be yet another example of some idiot ignoring all the warnings.
…yahoo.com/…/bitcoin-worth-35-million-tied-213110… justice.gov/…/us-attorney-announces-historic-336-… www.crimeworld.com/ireland/…/144477652.html komonews.com/…/king-county-dealer-amassed-287k-in…
hansolo@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Not quite.
Look, ask any serious privacy community, they’ll give you the same answer. It’s kind of a known standard.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, you presumably believe that you know what you’re talking about, so why don’t you tell me how this tracing is supposed to work?
I create a fresh wallet A. I go to John and buy bitcoin with cash. John knows zilch about me other than that some person occasionally shows up with cash, among dozens other people.
I move bitcoin through three tumblers, or via Monero, to a fresh wallet B, and then buy whatever.
John gets busted, his wallets are known.
How does the FBI tie wallets B or A to me?