Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 hours agoYeah I did, kinda like how only twelve people came up with 90% of the anti vax bullshit that got spread around during COVID.
Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 hours agoYeah I did, kinda like how only twelve people came up with 90% of the anti vax bullshit that got spread around during COVID.
b0ber@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I’m not here to defend anti-vax views, but to critique the culture of denial. Clearly, it’s difficult for many to discuss the negative aspects without dismissal, likely due to the cognitive dissonance they experience.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
If that’s your goal, the most polite thing I can say is that maybe you should reconsider your strategy.
b0ber@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
AI chats made people feel like everyone has to agree with them, “such a great question” “good point” The internet is so dead. soon you’ll only be talking to AI agents anyway, so enjoy the last bits of real people.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
I don’t know what this has to do with anything. I love it when people disagree with me. Either they make interesting points and I have fun learning something or they post drivel and I have fun with them until I get bored. It’s all upside.
AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Probably more to do with the fact that there is, at most, a tiny grain of truth at the core, but it’s wrapped in a mountain of bullshit.
b0ber@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Could be, but what interest would a regular person have in making things up? The only explanation I can think of is state actors, but even then, there must be something real to hold onto, even if it’s a 1 in million chance. The fact that everyone else is being dismissed makes it feel like a cult. I hate that criticizing Pfizer and Moderna has become associated with a political view, especially since these companies were involved in huge fraud scandals before.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Because they’re scared and wanted to save face on their own decisions. It only takes a few to act like this, then for everyone else it becomes “I know someone that…” And so on.
AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Cue the classic Arthur meme, “do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?”
How about for money? How many grifters pushed their own protective supplements? You think pharma maybe would pay some astroturfers to push the ivermectin that didn’t do dick for anyone that didn’t have worms already because it’s fucking dewormer? How many antivaxxers made up bullshit about it just like they do every other vaccine? How many wealthy people down played everything and helped push lies so their workers would get the fuck back in the office/factory? How many people just said some stupid shit and doubled down to protect their ego when called out?
Like here’s the real issue. You’ve put no real thought at all into why someone might lie about it, as evidenced by the fact that you can only conceive of it being state actors while I came up with all those people incentivized to lie off the top of my head. And then, after putting no real effort into reflection or anything, you look around at all the people who can come up with reasons you’re wrong and claim it feels like a cult.