It’s not about what to call it, because patriarchy has a specific definition and is a real issue, but instead, it’s about realizing that patriarchy is a symptom of a larger issue of class and to point the finger at the correct issue to better organize with like-minded people to ultimately fix the issue at its core.
History, from the matriarchies of old to the queens of Ancient Egypt, shows that “rulers” and “patriarchy” aren’t a package deal. Patriarchy isn’t a symptom of hierarchy. It’s a distinct engine of oppression. Abolishing class doesn’t automatically liberate women from the material reality of unpaid household labor.
We cannot treat gendered or racial division resolving as an inevitable byproduct of a classless society. Cultural superstructures lag behind economic shifts, and these autonomous divisions don’t simply resolve to match a new base.
Praxis is the refusal to treat the domestic struggle as a secondary theater of the revolution. By naming and engaging the material roots of gender, race, and the “IQ” myth today, we forge solidarity with groups historically kept on the sidelines, unifying the masses for the broader class struggle. We don’t wait for these hierarchies to evaporate. We name them and bring the fight to them.
Abolishing class would include things like providing all basic necessities to all people along with a universal basic income, thereby eliminating the need to generate an income in order to survive. This alone would liberate the people in society who would prefer to stay home for whatever reason, whether that be raising children, focusing on hobbies, improving personal mental heath, etc. An additional, very important outcome would be the liberation of people in abusive relationships who otherwise are not able to leave or seek the necessary support due to financial reasons.
Aboloshing class would also mean that all businesses that people choose to work for would be democratically run by the workers, and it’s hard to think of a situation where workers would specifically choose to, for example, pay women $0.70 on the dollar instead of paying each worker their fair share based on merit. Not saying it’s impossible, for example, for a company comprised mostly of sexist men choosing to pay women less solely because they’re women, but I do think it would be much rarer. The previous paragraph’s points would also eliminate the requirement of working in order to survive, which would allow the freedom of people who are dissatisfied with their jobs to look for different ones.
You are correct on the cultural point in your second paragraph, where cultural acceptance of equality for all humans would lag behind the economic shift, but it ultimately would still happen, and I disagree with your point about that shift not being inevitable. The liberation of people from the class struggles that make them currently beholden to powerful people (most often men, but powerful people in general) would inevitably shift the culture more towards the acceptance of said liberation and personal autonomy.
Your last point about naming individual struggles to bring to power people who have historically been repressed more than whoever is seen as the most powerful group in a given society is important, but at the same time, we need to make sure not to alienate people based on characteristics they cannot change, especially race and gender. While non-whites, queer people, and women do ultimately struggle more than, say in the US, straight, white men, the majority of straight, white men also struggle in terms of class. Ignoring that is a large part of how Trump gained so much power in the first place, since he appealed specifically to straight, white men, except pointing the finger in a bigoted direction instead of at the wealthy elite, and meanwhile Hillary Clinton was also not talking about class at all, and instead talking about identity politics and calling Bernie Sanders supporters sexist (Bernie Bros) because she is a woman and Bernie isn’t.
Of course, the reason both Trump and Hillary didn’t focus on class is because they are both a part of that wealthy elite and wanted to play divide and conquer politics to distract from the ultimate issue in the US and most of the rest of the world, which is class. That is also the reason why the Democrats feared Bernie so much as to pull levers behind the scenes to ensure that he would lose the primary to Hillary, since Bernie was focusing on class in his campaign.
AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
Abolition of class is a nice idea, but in the meantime, what would you call patriarchy instead?
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
It’s not about what to call it, because patriarchy has a specific definition and is a real issue, but instead, it’s about realizing that patriarchy is a symptom of a larger issue of class and to point the finger at the correct issue to better organize with like-minded people to ultimately fix the issue at its core.
AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
History, from the matriarchies of old to the queens of Ancient Egypt, shows that “rulers” and “patriarchy” aren’t a package deal. Patriarchy isn’t a symptom of hierarchy. It’s a distinct engine of oppression. Abolishing class doesn’t automatically liberate women from the material reality of unpaid household labor.
We cannot treat gendered or racial division resolving as an inevitable byproduct of a classless society. Cultural superstructures lag behind economic shifts, and these autonomous divisions don’t simply resolve to match a new base.
Praxis is the refusal to treat the domestic struggle as a secondary theater of the revolution. By naming and engaging the material roots of gender, race, and the “IQ” myth today, we forge solidarity with groups historically kept on the sidelines, unifying the masses for the broader class struggle. We don’t wait for these hierarchies to evaporate. We name them and bring the fight to them.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Abolishing class would include things like providing all basic necessities to all people along with a universal basic income, thereby eliminating the need to generate an income in order to survive. This alone would liberate the people in society who would prefer to stay home for whatever reason, whether that be raising children, focusing on hobbies, improving personal mental heath, etc. An additional, very important outcome would be the liberation of people in abusive relationships who otherwise are not able to leave or seek the necessary support due to financial reasons.
Aboloshing class would also mean that all businesses that people choose to work for would be democratically run by the workers, and it’s hard to think of a situation where workers would specifically choose to, for example, pay women $0.70 on the dollar instead of paying each worker their fair share based on merit. Not saying it’s impossible, for example, for a company comprised mostly of sexist men choosing to pay women less solely because they’re women, but I do think it would be much rarer. The previous paragraph’s points would also eliminate the requirement of working in order to survive, which would allow the freedom of people who are dissatisfied with their jobs to look for different ones.
You are correct on the cultural point in your second paragraph, where cultural acceptance of equality for all humans would lag behind the economic shift, but it ultimately would still happen, and I disagree with your point about that shift not being inevitable. The liberation of people from the class struggles that make them currently beholden to powerful people (most often men, but powerful people in general) would inevitably shift the culture more towards the acceptance of said liberation and personal autonomy.
Your last point about naming individual struggles to bring to power people who have historically been repressed more than whoever is seen as the most powerful group in a given society is important, but at the same time, we need to make sure not to alienate people based on characteristics they cannot change, especially race and gender. While non-whites, queer people, and women do ultimately struggle more than, say in the US, straight, white men, the majority of straight, white men also struggle in terms of class. Ignoring that is a large part of how Trump gained so much power in the first place, since he appealed specifically to straight, white men, except pointing the finger in a bigoted direction instead of at the wealthy elite, and meanwhile Hillary Clinton was also not talking about class at all, and instead talking about identity politics and calling Bernie Sanders supporters sexist (Bernie Bros) because she is a woman and Bernie isn’t.
Of course, the reason both Trump and Hillary didn’t focus on class is because they are both a part of that wealthy elite and wanted to play divide and conquer politics to distract from the ultimate issue in the US and most of the rest of the world, which is class. That is also the reason why the Democrats feared Bernie so much as to pull levers behind the scenes to ensure that he would lose the primary to Hillary, since Bernie was focusing on class in his campaign.