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rabiezaater@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Again, this is a lot of hyperbole.

Is AI killing the planet, or is capitalism and addiction to fossil fuels? If AI was 100 renewable and run based on community consent, would it still be “killing the planet”?

In what way does AI “steal” in any way more significantly than an artist uses another artist for inspiration or a coder uses another open source project for their code?

How does AI widen inequality worse than it has been already, and is that solely the result of AI or is it just a product of capitalism?

I could go through the entire list, but you get the idea. A lot of the “evils” of AI are actually just symptoms of deeper systemic issues that have nothing to do with AI itself.

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hesh@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Thanks for your reply. Here are my rebuttals:

Is AI killing the planet, or is capitalism and addiction to fossil fuels?

Capitalism was already killing the planet, but the rush to invest in AI has demonstrably accelerated it.

If AI was 100 renewable and run based on community consent, would it still be “killing the planet”?

No. But thats not the scenario we are in.

In what way does AI “steal” in any way more significantly than an artist uses another artist for inspiration or a coder uses another open source project for their code?

Because artists are people with consciousness and feeling and the capability for novel thought. AI is not. Believing it’s doing the same thing as human thinking is being suckered by the hype.

How does AI widen inequality worse than it has been already, and is that solely the result of AI or is it just a product of capitalism?

This is a big one, but without guardrails it’s definitely poised to hurt working people and enrich the powerful, which therefore drives further inequality (which yes, was already bad as a product of modern capitalism). And those guardrails are not in place, and will not be put into place if we just follow along as they want us to.

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spectrums_coherence@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I feel this reply is somewhat misguided and reiterate with most of the AI propaganda talking point.

“It is not AI, it is capitalism": It is really AI in capitalism, which is the reality we life in right now. If you take anything and put it in an utopia with a bunch of constraint, then of course it will be great. But that simply is not the world we are living in.

People hate cars, because it is a inefficient, polluting, and unsafe way to travel. But what if cars are all running on renewable energy, is super small, and never collide with pedestrian or cyclist.

Some people hate meat eating because it is inefficient and forces animal to live in inhuman conditions. But what if we can make animal photosynthesis and make them live happy, free, and full lives. Then no one will be against meat eating, but again, that is not our world right now.

Just because there is an alternative utopia where AI is perfect that doesn’t mean it is right now, and its flaws causes the hatred on the internet.

Now, most AI center are polluting, consume large amount of energy, and those AI that people mostly uses are built with stolen knowledge. Finally, society should optimize for the well-being of the people, and artist are people, AI are not. All the AI people use nowadays funnels the money to the richest few, while majority of the population, even AI experts, don’t have the means to train useful AI model as of now.

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