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chickenf622@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

We really need to stamp down on this “but both sides suck” bullshit. Yes the establishment Democrats suck, but this defeatist bullshit doesn’t help. I know it would be great to live in a country where there isn’t a two party system l. No hate towards you this subject just got me ramty as fuck.

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bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
This isn’t defeatist at all, you just need to recognize that the change you want to see needs to come from an alternative source. Vote Blue No Matter Who is how we ended up with fascism. We need to acknowledge that fact, then we can start to change it.

Have hope, a better future is possible, but it probably won’t come from electoral politics. We need to build an organized labor movement and start taking real action.

The Black Panther Party is a great model for this!

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- chickenf622@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Nah your overall meme is defeatist as fuck. Your saying no matter who you vote for the trolley will run ove everyone. I don’t disagree with the sentiment, but this bullshit dichotomy doesn’t help.
  
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  - bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    If all we do is vote, the trolley will continue to run over everyone. That isn’t defeatist, it’s a recognition of reality. We need an organized working class to push for change outside of the ballot box. That’s how all of the major change in history happened, through protests, unrest and civil disobedience.
    
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  - nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Saying voting won’t work just means you need to try something else. It’s only defeatist if you don’t try anything.
    
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  - Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    tankies likely dont vote thats why.
    
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  - AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Hey boss, how do we end ICE?
    Sam Giancana American mobster
    
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
both sides thing is such a conservative buzzword, are these people cosplaying as “far leftists” as conservatives because they sound exactly the same too.

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AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Nobody is proposing defeatism you ignorant fool. We want systems that DO NOT KILL PEOPLE.

You really look at your friends and family and tell them:

Time to die for Rupert Murdoch today, that’s the way it goes.

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