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• selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t go over my day calling people names. It’s not hard for me to call them as they want them to be called, and if I don’t know that, they are just people like me.

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  • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Carnist is a description of someone who has a meat-inclusive diet, other descriptions of people by what they can or cannot eat are e.g. vegan, lactose intolerant, celiac… It’s not a “name” you call someone, it’s a description of someone using a certain aspect of them relevant to the discussion.

    A “name”, as in, something used to insult would be e.g. corpsemuncher, bloodmouth, cheesebreth &c.

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    • lemonmelon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s used as a pejorative. It’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

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      • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean in the same way as “terf” I guess

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    • selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So, nonvegan people?

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      • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The point behind not using “nonvegan” is that it frames carnists as "the normal"s and the “vegans” as the one who have “something special” going on. This is true with celiac and nonceliac, lactose intolerant and not lactose intolerant. But we argue that veganism, i.e. not killing if unnecessary, is the normal thing to do. That the only reason it doesn’t seem that way is because it got normalized through repetition and how widespread it is.

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  • core@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    another user said it’s like how christians call non-believers sinners. that makes sense to me.

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    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The actual term is secular. The ones using sinner are the vegans of the Christian world.

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      • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So you’re saying the ones who call nonchristians “sinners” are correct?

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• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Most people are apathetic, and a chunk of those are due to ignorance. Calling them carnists likely isn’t helping the cause at all.

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