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• LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  I’m glad you’re so enlightened, but you should also understand that just because you have a zen-like mastery over your whole brain doesn’t mean it’s effortless for everyone.

  I’d posit that rather than arguing with a definition that helps many people understand their own failings, you might consider that the definition isn’t wrong, it’s just not meant for you. That those people are accessing the tools and skills they need, and this definition is one of those tools.

  Truth be told, I don’t suffer from overly intrusive thoughts, either, but I understand and can empathise with those who do. We’re not all the same, and understanding each other’s experiences is one of our greatest strengths as humans.

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  • LemmysMum@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Any you’re right, we all have our failings. Mine is an incapacity to enjoy seeing people afflicted by their mental anguish when I feel like adjusting their perspective to fit mine is what gives me the ability to control myself.

    This results in me being unable to sympathise with those people despite empathising with them because it makes me feel like they’re actively rejecting one of those tools that will get them where they need to be.

    Like being thrown a rope when you’re stuck in the well, if you reject the rope what is the person up top supposed to think?

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    • LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I’d perhaps liken it more to jumping in the water to save someone who’s drowning.

      You’re trying to help them and they should logically know that, but their instinct drives them to grab you everywhere and act like an anchor, drowning you both.

      No matter how rational a person is, emotion and subconscious reactions can override all of that. That’s not really a failing as it’s the basis for empathy, but those same subconscious reactions can form a feedback loop that’s very difficult to escape.

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      • LemmysMum@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I’d perhaps liken it more to jumping in the water to save someone who’s drowning.

        Thank you, that’s an anology I can work with.

        No matter how rational a person is, emotion and subconscious reactions can override all of that.

        I wish that was the case. I’m diagnosed as high functioning autistic presenting, 100% autism free, but my natural capacity for logic obliterated my emotional development. I can and do functionally parse all my emotional thought through logic. This is my weakness and my strength.

        I’m not unaware that my approaches are often mistaken for dismissal or ignorance of people’s feelings, because they are, but they’re also the tools that emotional people need to temper their emotions.

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