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Zorque@lemmy.world â¨3⊠â¨days⊠agoWorking with engineers as my profession, these are not professional requirements, they are personal requirements. They make you a better prospect when hiring, but spending time to learn those skills while actually on the job makes you a liability.
One of the jobs I had when working with engineers was basically doing all the digital document management and word processing/excel tasks.
Again, im not saying those skills, or their equivalent in other professions, shouldnât be part of the general lexicon. Im saying taking the time to learn them, while also being paid, is discouraged. KPI is a thing, and learning new skills makes that go down.
TalkingFlower@lemmy.world â¨3⊠â¨days⊠ago
I am not sure about your projects. Other than InDesign, all I mentioned are essentially project /client requirements; daily operation in the site office is going to be crippled in one way or another if you donât know how to use those software. Sure, you donât have to know two drawing software programs; they are being framed as âextraâ on job ads, but it is really handy when there is an opportunity to make an impression on the client.
Zorque@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨days⊠ago
Of course! It can and should be something that is encouraged in most, if not all, workplaces.
Im saying thatâs not the case, even going outside engineering. The emphasis is on learning and polishing your primary skill, not tertiary, or even adjacent skillsets. If it happens and improves workload, great! But if we catch you doing it when you could be making money instead, for shameâŚ
I would say in professions like engineering, where you are doing more problem solving, there is a higher tolerance. Especially since a lot of PMs and supervisors are or were engineers themselves. But tolerance is not acceptance.
TalkingFlower@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨days⊠ago
Yeah, but I mean if you are fully qualified for the job and the company is being run efficiently, and there are no projects that have nasty extra demands/complaints that deviate from the norm and the skillset of the company. Why need tertiary skills aside from your boss having a sense of humor âyOU sHoUlD leARN thIS, i pAy yoU tO lEaRNâ?
Besides, what I have been mentioning are NOT tertiary skills; they are becoming primary skills, but no one actually wants to admit that. It is a constant reminder to your superior that they canât elevate you even if they want to.
It sounds to me you are talking about a cultural problem called conformity. Sometimes it becomes so stiff that even working efficiently requires permission because someone is adverse to change.
Zorque@lemmy.world â¨2⊠â¨days⊠ago
Iâm talking about a cultural problem started by Henry Ford over a hundred years ago called the assembly line. Where you only have one job to do and you do it over amd over with little variation. It started in industry, but shows itâs face in every profession.
Im glad your personal experience is better, but that doesnât mean it isnât a very dangerous trend in most professions that this entire post is literally complaining about.
Yes, situations should be more ideal for the worker. But theyâre not. That is my entire point.