Comment on Will they wake up before it's too late?

• FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It means society has agreed officially that it should be punished, and you’re getting away with it.

  You’re talking about the direct, practical implications, and sure, there it’s no different. But there’s more to life than that.

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  • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    But society “officially” agreeing is morality, not law. What he has done and is doing is wrong and deserves punishment for that, not strictly because “it’s illegal”. The difference is demanding consequences vs relying on someone else to administer them.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No, society agreeing is morality (well, depends on your conception of morality). Officially agreeing is the difference between that concept and law.

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      • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m not following. I can see how “laws are society officially agreeing on what is ok”, but conviction and enforcement of those laws has nothing to do with society.

        I don’t see how society can officially agree, short of declaring the government illegitimate and starting a civil war.

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  • baines@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    yea we don’t care about the semantics when people are being shot with impunity

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    • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      you don’t, but that doesn’t mean it won’t turn out to be important later. Assuming fascism won’t last forever it can matter for the trials to come.

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    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I am not saying he’s innocent in any way shape or form. I’m just saying that his actions being “illegal” has little meaning if the system can’t or won’t enforce the consequences.

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    • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Then you’re throwing away a whole load of favour for absolutely no reason whatsoever except that it gives you a feeling of self-righteousness.

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