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z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
They’re not. Make no mistake, MAGA is full of a myriad of ideologies ranging from fascists, christian nationalists, white supremacists, anti vaxers, misogynists, transphobes/homophobes/terfs, pedophiles, capitalists/monopolists, incels, manosphere bros, and more.
They don’t care about what they together stand for, because as a single entity? They only stand for one thing: the power to take away social and civil liberties. To fuck the public, and maximize profit and control, to MAKE us all, at home and abroad, comply.
Even amongst MAGA, RFK Jr is a joke, only a small subset of MAGA take him seriously and luckily they’ll be dead of heart attacks and treatable diseases soon. What’s sad is they’ll have taken down so many innocents along with them. RFK Jr is there to distract the American public of the real issues with our Health Care System which is mainly affordability, access, and a competitive public option. It’s not that he’s even in the pocket of Big Pharma, though that is likely true. But even if he isn’t, Big Pharma still benefits from his incompetency, from the sideshow he creates.
Hopefully that clears things up. Americans aren’t stupid because they don’t have access to the medical research and information, Americans are stupid because their pride tells them that their intuition and their echo chambers of validation make them right in spite of aforementioned research and information. That’s MAGA, that’s America.
Basically all of us are choosing the devils we know because we gave up on looking for angels of our better nature long ago.
DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
Wonderfully put. If people really want to dismantle MAGA, they need to first understand the underlying structure.
90% of MAGAts aren’t taking RFK seriously. But he’s there to appeal to the 10% that want him there. Now who’s that group? Mostly the people that opposed the health measures put forth during the pandemic. Remember that anti-health and even anti-vax groups were extremely small and irrelevant before the pandemic. The (in my opinion) justifiably tough measures we had to endure unfortunately created disenfranchised individuals who felt attacked and wanted revenge on the system afterwards. MAGA offered a place for them to go to. Some of them aren’t actively anti-LGBT or anti-immigration, but they thought the other side tried to poison them and their kids, therefore they’re bad, therefore let’s vote Republican.
That’s how everything works. The anti-immigrant crowd doesn’t really care about vaccines for the most part. But they’ve seen too many tiktoks of brown people shoplifting or doing X or Y bad thing. So now they feel the country has been taken over by a hostile mob of aliens. ICE and Kristy Noem appeal to that crowd.
Meanwhile, Technofascists probably aren’t anti-health and also probably don’t care too much about immigration, but they absolutely hate regulations, taxes for the wealthy and want to make as much money in digital grifting as possible. So they ally with the religious nuts, the anti-vax nuts and the racists because they can make more money.
The incels and contrarians are mostly internet edgelords who saw far too many blue-haired libs and women trying to ruin video games for them, so they grouped together to bring down wokeness. Because to them, wokeness ruined fun, ruined Star Wars and Ghostbusters and a bunch of other things they feel were ruined by Hollywood. This was the main group in charge of radicalising younger people.
And the Christian right is a mix of all of the above, but take the hardcore churchgoers from every group.
There are others. Anti-trans, anti-LGBT, etc. Each group has actually little to do with the other. Like the anti-Hollywood incel crowd is extremely antisemitic, while the Technofascist crowd claims to be super pro-Jewish (they’re only pro-Israel). In theory they should be opposed to each other. But MAGA is the temporary truce between them to fight this hypothetical common enemy.
That’s why they’ve fabricated this idea of the Antifa domestic terrorist in kahoots with the immigrant criminal gangster. They need to idealize these two groups as part of the larger problem because if they don’t, the entire MAGA movement collapses.
Therefore, fascism in the US can realistically only be stopped by:
The internal collapse of MAGA: Infighting or a big enough issue to make the gap between them insurmountable.
Military intervention: the armed forces or other groups with enough control of violence and weapons to overthrow the government.
A civil war: the country reaches a breaking point and devolves into full on insurrection movements, separationist movements, and renders MAGA useless as it becomes the only allowed ideology in one of the two (or more) combatants.
I know people on Lemmy love the idea of insurrections and revolutions. And I understand that. But if someone doesn’t want to see a lot of bloodshed in the next few years, then they’d be hoping for one of the first two options.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Dude, either you are me, or I’ve been spending waaaay too much time on Lemmy, or both, lol.
Same fucking page. You broke it down better than I did. No notes.