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Comment on Retail stores still selling the same overpriced junk since at least 2019 and even pretending it's on sale

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Ooh, a Celeron N4000. I will see you, and raise you this piece of shit we have at work:

My boss bought this as one of those Black Friday “deals” for about $99 USD. The sticker on the bottom doesn’t seem to reveal its manufacturing date but I believe this model was released in 2018. Really, it’s just a netbook in all but name.

We use this specifically to drive a walk-around barcode scanner in our warehouse and the software we have to use on it is Windows only. It’s tiny and still somehow gets stellar battery life, and it’s deliberately so cheap as to be disposable so when the day inevitably comes that it gets smashed, no one will care.

With Win10 IoT on it the thing actually runs tolerably for our intended use case, which is the aforementioned barcode bleeping and nothing else. And at least yours there has a 1080p display; this one is only 1366 x 768 so doing practically anything else on it is excruciating anyway. What amuses me the most about it is that with only 39 gigs of usable storage there literally isn’t enough left over to run Windows updates. I have this thing as ruthlessly pared down as I can get without creating a custom Windows installation or something and it only has 770 megabytes free on it at the moment. If you want to let it update for whatever reason, you have to attach an external USB drive to it.

I can’t fathom trying to run Windows 11 on it. Fuck all that noise.

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pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The license to run win 10 iot cost more than the laptop. I would love to get our IT to run win 10 iot but it’s a pain to even get licenses and expensive to get them legitimately

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- dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  massgrave.dev
  
  If you have to do it legitimately for corporate liability purposes then yes, actually buying licenses will not be cost effective. But activating the LTSC versions is otherwise trivially easy.
  
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  - pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Yeah, I mean when I have to use windows personally, I use win 10 iot. However, at work, we can’t risk that and we’re broke so were still on win 10
    
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SpikesOtherDog@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I guess as long as the laptop isn’t connecting to anything else and you are transferring data via USB, there is no issue. The fact that it is using special software makes me think it is directly connected to your database, making that a loose cannon if there is any kind of compromise.

W10 IOT dropped support last year, so it will not receive security patches UNLESS you are using W10 IOT Enterprise LTSC. I doubt it because the license is twice the cost of the laptop. It’s available from CDW, but I think there are stipulations.

Your boss would have been better off buying a used enterprise laptop from Amazon.

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- dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I am explicitly using LTSC.
  
  You don’t need a license if you know about massgrave.dev. I’m only using this because our warehouse software requires Windows and the latter is already bought and paid for. Otherwise, Microsoft can bite me.
  
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