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• 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  the policy shoud be “this is union of democratic countries”

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  • Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And who decides which countries are democratic and which are not?

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    • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      we have the whole field of expertise for that, we call it the political science. and no one with more than 2 brain cells thinks china or russia are democratic countries.

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      • Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I doubt political scientists in China agree with, say, German political scientists’ definition of democracy. What supranational organization will decide which countrie’s political scientists are correct?

        I could perfectly well argue that France isn’t Democratic. The majority of the population voted for a leftist coalition that is being blocked by the president of the republic from being elected, and Macron has already skipped the democratic will of the people by declaring emergency measures to pass antidemocratic legislation such as the increase of retirement age.

        In Greece, when a leftist government (Syriza) was elected around 2010 after the huge economic crisis around a platform of reviewing the state debt and democratically decided on referendum to do so, the European Central Bank threatened with dropping its obligations towards Greece and forced neoliberal austerity policy.

        In Berlin, the people democratically voted through direct referendum for a cap to rent prices, and shortly after the highest court of Germany declared it illegal and rent prices were uncapped again (despite economic studies of the policy results in its limited lifespan prove it was effective in lowering rent pricing).

        In Spain (my homeland), when a leftist party (Podemos) was getting ranked 3rd in the country by polls and was on trend to overtake the socialdemocrats (PSOE), an illegal police operation directed from the ministry of internal affairs fabricated false evidence of funding of said leftist party from Venezuela and Iran and leaked these falsified police reports to all media before the elections, which destroyed the popularity of the party.

        I gotta say, being a leftist in Europe, it doesn’t feel democratic at all that all the choice we have is to vote on the colour of the party that will impose neoliberal austerity policy and raise military expenditure (all parties in the EU do this).

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      • Guilvareux@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So having 2 braincells is a policy then!

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