Comment on Does anyone think people in Minnesota should radicalize others there to socialism?

ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So how do you think we should radicalize them to socialism? We can do a class consciousness platform. It worked for Zohran in New York.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Give it a catchy new name. Never mention the words socialism, communism, or capitalism. Just say what the movement stands for and see if people agree once the bias is removed.

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    • Drbreen@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe they can call it ‘Sharing is caring’?

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      • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nah, they’ll see right through that, maybe something more cynical like “Other people won’t get less screwed than you.”

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    • ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve read something of that sort happening, and people love the ideas but once they put 2+2 together they retract and start to hiss at it because the media/leader taught them to react that way to any ideology that is a threat to them.

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    • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe “economic populism” or “economic-conscious”, perhaps?

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  • ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s a great start, and I wouldn’t have seen it happen anywhere else in the US. But socialism is week because it doesn’t have the resources like what capitalism has exploited and has turned into fascism, scaring everyone that socialism is bad for their way of life, which if you ask any citizen would tell you that it stinks. I’m still skeptical of Mamdani, because everyone is susceptible to corruption and/or intimidation.

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    • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What about market socialism? A market economy should be necessary in the transitional stage between capitalism and communism (or a socialist-democratic dictatorship of the proletariat, if you prefer).

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      • ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ll tell you my opinion on this, any ideology (left, center, or right) or philosophy can sound so good and appetizing on paper, but when it comes to people managing it, the chances of corruption and decay are always present and its fate is doomed from the start, even if it goes through a successful phase. Maybe small scale communal markets can work but it’s still going to be living under capitalism, which is expensive. Capitalism has more power because it has all the money and the seductions, and like the right said, empathy is weekness, which translates to we don’t care about the unfortunate who are suffering. Capitalism has caused so much damage that we need a reset button like human extinction.

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