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I don’t think journaled file systems fare any better. You’re probably thinking COW (copy on write) systems like zfs and btrfs, but I don’t see how journaling helps with overwrite recovery at all.

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tal@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It looks like I was wrong about it being the default journaling mode for ext3; the default is apparently to journal only metadata. However, if you’re journaling data, it gets pushed out to the disk in a new location rather than on top of where the previous data existed.

linux.die.net/man/1/shred

CAUTION: Note that shred relies on a very important assumption: that the file system overwrites data in place. This is the traditional way to do things, but many modern file system designs do not satisfy this assumption. The following are examples of file systems on which shred is not effective, or is not guaranteed to be effective in all file system modes:

log-structured or journaled file systems, such as those supplied with AIX and Solaris (and JFS, ReiserFS, XFS, Ext3, etc.)

file systems that write redundant data and carry on even if some writes fail, such as RAID-based file systems

file systems that make snapshots, such as Network Appliance’s NFS server

file systems that cache in temporary locations, such as NFS version 3 clients

compressed file systems

In the case of ext3 file systems, the above disclaimer applies (and shred is thus of limited effectiveness) only in data=journal mode, which journals file data in addition to just metadata. In both the data=ordered (default) and data=writeback modes, shred works as usual. Ext3 journaling modes can be changed by adding the data=something option to the mount options for a particular file system in the /etc/fstab file, as documented in the mount man page (man mount).
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