I very much disagree, it’s like judging that samba is not good cos it’s not blues. They’re two different genres with different goals.

Funny, that was actually my point I tried to make. I repeat myself:

That’s not to say friendslop don’t have a right to exist. There’s a time and a place for friendslop, it’s not when you want to play a good game.

I often compare it to mediocre or bad movies which only work on cinema screens or home theater. If you watch “popcorn movies” without popcorn, you won’t enjoy the movie.

But that’s where I’d disagree:

If it’s fun then it is well designed.

You can have fun with badly designed or badly polished games. It needs an engaging game loop, sure, it can’t be complete crap. But I’d argue that you don’t need to create a good game to create a fun(ny) game.

Example: EYE Divine Cybermancy. One of my favourite games but I often laugh at the jank and incoherent story, and the bugs, and I’m still having fun.

Maybe we shouldn’t call it friendslop, but friendjank?