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Comment on France seeks to ban social media for children under 15

Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I agree that big tech’s social media is like digital heroin, not only bad for kids.

But it should be up to the parent to protect their kids, you also don’t let them walk the park alone, why should you let them browse the web un-supervised.

There are parental tools to restrict your child’s internet access, those should be applied by the parent.

Not every citizen should be under surveillance by the government under the rouse that they’ll protect your kids, which they won’t.

The real goal here is to detect people who go against the government and block them. While kids & criminals slip through the cracks by finding sketchy un-surveilled sites and messaging channels.

And if you really think your government gives a damn about your kids safety, then I urge you to look in the epstein ph/f-iles

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fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Is something nobody discusses out loud is the fact that literally in you internet service where users can post is covered by these laws, they’re not microtargeted at Instagram or anything like that. Also politicians explicitly say things like this is meant to stop transgenderism or this is about Gaza out loud

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sunbeam60@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I appreciate the nuance. Thanks for a thoughtful answer.

You’ll see from different answers I’ve made to the reactions on my first comment that I also approach this with nuance.

I know many people that work in government. Not the US government, but across Europe. I can’t answer for the US government. But I can tell you first hand that the people I know aren’t in it to gain some kind of Orwellian control.

When I last spoke to a U.K. MP about this he want in fact understanding the complexity here, and the lens that many people want to see it banned and may see it as governmental overreach. Decent, hard working people are trying to balance these tough choices where I live. I’m sorry if that isn’t the case where you live.

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- Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m also living in the EU,
  however I notice a global push to such mass surveillance. The EU has been under attack by Denmark for years now e.g. by pushing through chat control (a government backdoor into encryption).
  
  However there ain’t such thing as a backdoor only for the good guys, this can and will eventually be abused, either by extremist governments, which may not yet be in power, but might come some day, or external countries, hacking into the backdoor.
  
  Privacy and technology experts have been warning against chat control and age verification for these reasons, however we do feel ignored, since the topics keep on coming back up.
  
  I kinda doubt that most of the politicians graps these risks though, and kinda find it dissapointing and demotivating that our rights to privacy keep being put under scrutiny again and again.
  
  However I’ll refuse to give up, since maintaining your rights is important, and gaining them back once lost is often very hard / nearly impossible.
  
  Thank you for being open minded and up for hearing my arguments though! :)
  
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  - sunbeam60@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Chat control was an insane suggestion that wouldn’t work politically nor technically and, logically, has been abandoned. For Denmark not to check Germany’s position on it, and for the flagrant disregarding of all technical positions that called out the utter bullshit, was laughable and one of the major failings of Denmark’s presidency.
    
    But chat control and age verification is not the same and one sensible suggestion shouldn’t fall on the insanity of another suggestion.
    
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