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• TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  She left politics after almost being assassinated by a nazi murderer and after years of receiving threats and very graphic, targeted hate speech.

  Annie Lööf herself, as a liberal, would not have considered it a problem that people vocalized their frustration with politics or calling politicians ”fucking dumb”.

  You are intentionally sabotaging public discourse and I can’t understand why.

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  • guy@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The issue is normalisation of hate against politicians, which is the end becomes nazi assassinations.
    It starts with people, often online, creating a climate where personal attacks are okay, then it step by step increases in intensity to become calls for violence and so on.

    You are intentionally sabotaging public discourse

    Absolutely not. There’s a difference between calling politicians “fucking dumb” and criticizing policy. If you can’t understand that I can’t help you.

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    • TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It has never not been normal for people eho are frustrated to call people they disagree with dumb. Insistence to the contrary is total fiction. Democracy isn’t based in perfect harmony and civility – the opposite, in fact. Your false equivalence between OP not being perfectly nice and civil with the absolute worst of hateful shit and threats is not helpful.

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      • guy@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        And no one has made such claims.
        I’m afraid that you are completely missing the point. I don’t understand if it is with intent or not but it is not helpful for the debate.

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• Dojan@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Oh nooo, little miss Ayn Rand fangirl hasn’t been working in politics. Her mandate lasted nearly twenty fucking years, she had plenty of time as a politician.

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  • guy@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    twenty fucking years

    How is that relevant? There’s no time limit on being a politician.

    And it’s a huge problem if politicians feel that they have to cease their engagement because of fuckfaces spreading hate and threats against them.
    If you downplay the issue you’re either not a fan of democracy or can’t see the wider implications.

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• Iceman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  And more power to them.

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