Comment on Right faction stages walkout at Labor conference over CFMEU motion

HalfEarthMedic@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• MisterFrog@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Labor Right is the biggest misnomer in Australian politics.

  It’s also why Labor being referred to as “left wing” is a joke

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  • HalfEarthMedic@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There’s been a lot of talk lately about Libs splitting, I wouldn’t be against Labor splitting, maybe Centrist Labor and Social Democratic Labor.

    Let’s see how much support those neoliberal cranks on the right when they have to defend holding back progress to the electorate rather than pushing their weight around in caucus.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Labor Left members should just be part of the Greens. They reason they’re not is because they value the power associated with being part of a larger major party more than they value good policy. That’s the same reason Labor won’t split.

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      • MisterFrog@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        (not a Labor member, much further left) Sorry, but at least Labor has some semblance of party democracy. Hearing about the Greens from past members, it’s a bloody top-down dictatorship where membership don’t get to vote on policy at all (well, they can “recommend” but that’s about it)

        I’d strongly argue that the reason many Labor Left members aren’t members of the Greens is because the Greens are a feel good org that doesn’t actually listen to the membership.

        Disappointingly, many Labor Left members seem open to the idea that capitalism is actively hostile to our well-being, but continue to support the party, even if it’s pro-capitalism, and pro-neoliberalism (it is these days, anyway).

        I’ll still preference the Greens over Labor for jow, but they are not a serious alternative.

        Any party that isn’t internally democratic is not a serious alternative.

        Coincidentally: victoriansocialists.org.au/node/238

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