Comment on South Korea police say 120,000 home cameras hacked for 'sexploitation' footage
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
gynaecologist’s clinic
who in their right mind puts a camera in medical exam room and who in their right mind goes there to receive any kind of treatment, thinking “yeah, this camera does not bother me at all”?
sometime people really do get what they deserve 🤷♂️
A lot of pretty reasonable ways it could happen.
There are a lot of people to potentially blame here, none of which are the victims
It says nothing about it being in an exam room, could have been in the lobby i’ll go out on a limb here and say that records from the lobby don’t make very good “sexploitation” material
Could have been hidden as others have said the article is about camera hacks, not cameras hidden by some peeping tom
Could have simply gone unnoticed since people would not expect a camera in exam rooms
“some” might not, but again, there is no indication these were purposely hidden cameras, so lot of them should.
There are a lot of people to potentially blame here, none of which are the victims
being a victim does not absolve you of responsibility. it does not make any assault that may have happened to you allright, but if you contributed to a situation with a bad decision, the fact you were attacked suddenly does not change that decision into smart one.
i’ll go out on a limb here and say that records from the lobby don’t make very good “sexploitation” material
The article only states that a gynecologist’s office camera was hacked, not that the footage was used. It sucks, but I can guarantee they put that in there for shock value.
Later it states 1193 videos were made from 133,000 cameras that were hacked, so while nobody but the people with the data can say for sure, it is quite possible it was just a lobby camera.
the article is about camera hacks, not cameras hidden by some peeping tom
Yes, but your argument is that people should have gone elsewhere. People are just giving you pretty reasonable explanations as to why they might not have simply gone to another doctor. Nobody is saying “This is exactly what happened.”
“some” might not, but again, there is no indication these were purposely hidden cameras, so lot of them should.
There is no indication that it was a visible camera in the exam room either. You just made that assumption.
The article says nothing about the circumstances, so everything said is speculation. Assuming the camera was visible and in the exam room is just that, an assumption. Just as you made that assumption, others gave reasons why that may not be true.
You can justify victim blaming all you want, but the fact of the matter is the blame lies solely on the perpetrator. If they did not do the bad deed, then the victim would not be a victim.
You can, and should, have situational awareness, but that is something that comes with experience and practice. Not everyone can prepare for every situation.
Later it states 1193 videos were made from 133,000 cameras that were hacked, so while nobody but the people with the data can say for sure, it is quite possible it was just a lobby camera.
ok, that’s fair point. i will admit i have originally reacted just to copied lede without reading the details, i did not really expect that remark to turn into such discussion.
Yes, but your argument is that people should have gone elsewhere. People are just giving you pretty reasonable explanations as to why they might not have simply gone to another doctor.
and that argument stays. if the camera was in fact visible in the exam room (speculation indeed), then walking away would be the only reasonable reaction. i assume that some first line gynecologist don’t perform some critical emergency procedures (and even if so, they would be just fraction of their services) that would really not allow you to wait and go elsewhere. sooner or later, someone should notice and raise an alarm.
Assuming the camera was visible and in the exam room is just that, an assumption
of course it is an assumption. i am reacting within some parameters outside of which this discussion does not make sense.
You can justify victim blaming all you want, but the fact of the matter is the blame lies solely on the perpetrator.
advocating common sense is not victim blaming. playing a victim card is not going to help you when something bad happens to you. lemmy.zip/post/54116147/23096002
You can, and should, have situational awareness, but that is something that comes with experience and practice. Not everyone can prepare for every situation.
and one should assume that at least some of the women who were patients there had one. it only takes one person to raise an alarm in situation like that.
along_the_road@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Nah. The patients of the clinic do not deserve this nor they did they put the cameras there.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
patients of the clinic could have said “are you fucking kidding me?” and go elsewhere and they did not.
anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
They may not have noticed the cameras or not have a choice to go elsewhere in a reasonable time.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
we are talking about cameras being hacked, not about cameras being purposely hidden by some creeping tom.
oh really? how many patients do you think come to gynecologist’s office with such urgent condition they can’t go elsewhere?
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ulterno@programming.dev 1 day ago
elsewhere, you would have this guy’s friends.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
so you will let your gynecology treatment record on some security camera, because some other gynecologist might be rapist? you weren’t able to find more absurd nonsense to defend your position?