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Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

You’re getting really hung up on this idea of “god” when that’s not what I’m really talking about lol

Maybe some people find the big bang theory far-fetched, maybe in 300 years we’ll have a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT origin story for our universe, ALSO free of any god or creation theory, but just different thanks to our understanding of it changing.

“argumentum ad ignorantiam” - I’m not claiming anything, just trying to keep your mind open by playing devil’s advocate. There’s a HUGE difference between saying “this is real because we can’t prove it isn’t,” and “there’s a small possibility this is real, but we can’t prove it.” Like, saying something DOESN’T exist simply because you HAVEN’T seen proof of it is actually, literally argumentum ad ignorantiam, and you’re getting dangerously close to that.

Like yes, the discussion started because you don’t believe in a god because you haven’t seen evidence of it. I’m just trying to point out the argumentum ad ignorantiam in that. Not trying to get you to believe in god, just to see that there’s maybe things we don’t understand, that we aren’t capable of disproving, and possibly will simply never know in our lifetime

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glorkon@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

You’re getting really hung up on this idea of “god” when that’s not what I’m really talking about lol

This whole thread was about the likelihood of God’s existence…

Maybe some people find the big bang theory far-fetched

Perhaps, but contrary to the god hypothesis there is a lot of science that makes the big bang theory very plausible.

just trying to keep your mind open

Forgive me, but I’m a person who follows science and the scientific method, so it seems ironic that YOU are trying to keep MY mind open. I will always change my mind according to new evidence, just as science does, being a self-correcting system.

There’s a HUGE difference between saying “this is real because we can’t prove it isn’t,” and “there’s a small possibility this is real, but we can’t prove it.”

True, but some things have an infinitesimal likelihood. And to me, the likelihood of God’s existence is, while not equal to zero, so extremely close to zero that it makes no practical difference.

Like, saying something DOESN’T exist simply because you HAVEN’T seen proof of it

I never said god doesn’t exist. I actually stated several times now that you cannot disprove the existence of anything.

you don’t believe in a god because you haven’t seen evidence of it. I’m just trying to point out the argumentum ad ignorantiam in that.

That’s not an argumentum ad ignorantiam. Wikipedia:

“The fallacy is committed when one asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true.”

I never asserted that the proposition of god is false (as mentioned several times above). I refuse to make any definitive assertions concerning the existence of god (neither true nor false).

I only asserted that the probability of god’s existence is infinitesimally small.

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