I’m not saying it will work on everyone, but the fewer “supporting” arguments people have, the more questions they will not be able to reflexively dismiss
and i’m basing this on myself, i used to be fairly religious, although i was on a “we don’t know what god really is, and the bible is not fully literal” level, so i didn’t have a problem with texts like this
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turdcollector69@lemmy.world 10 hours ago“if we can show it is neither”
Not to be a dick but you fundamentally don’t understand religious people because ignoring what’s obviously in front of you is the core “faith” these people talk endlessly about.
You can’t logically disprove religion because it’s not a logical phenomenon.
You’re arguing with someone’s personal interpretation of the Bible when you argue the Bible with religious people, they have no objectivity to leverage.
That’s why I really don’t like using Bible quotes, it’s just indulging in delusion to attempt to disprove delusion.
rapchee@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
turdcollector69@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
In your own words, what is faith?
In mine:
The denial of basic facts and the willingness to persevere in the face of all logic on instruction from a higher power for unknowable reasons.
There’s no shot at converting these people because they already decided the outcome of any logical argument put before them.
To them each incongruous fact is just a weird shaped puzzle piece that’ll fit their world view no matter how contrived.
It’s why cult deprogramming is so incredibly difficult.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You rarely convince christians or any other sort of fanatic you argue with them for the peanut gallery to create a pervasive sense that among smart people its a joke so that a few people should ultimately decide to laugh instead of being the butt of it.
It is on the overall working. Religious nones are a growing group and atheism is slightly more acceptable. Once nearly all were Christians. We are down to 62% of the pop and the youngest gen is 48%.