What does that have to do with the context where you’re replying? I was talking about censorship, not community building / spam filtering
What does that have to do with the context where you’re replying? I was talking about censorship, not community building / spam filtering
TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
The “censorship” you’re referring to is what real online communities commonly refer to as moderation. Moderation is a direct form of influencing or “building” community in online spaces. Unmoderated (or uncensored as you put it) online spaces always necessarily become filled with bigotry, slurs, and Nazis.
That’s the conversation we’re having with you, even though you seem to want to talk about the same subject in a manner that doesnt match with reality.
iloveDigit@piefed.social 22 hours ago
Seems like you’re trying to bait me into a response that could be used as an excuse to ban me. Try this bullshit on nostr if you can handle talking somewhere you can’t just ban people who stand up to your bullying
TehPers@beehaw.org 20 hours ago
Beehaw’s only rule is to bee nice. Surely anything that violates that rule isn’t worth any of our time to read.
iloveDigit@piefed.social 20 hours ago
Obviously a fake rule, since I don’t see any risk of the person I was replying to being banned.
Like most online discussion spaces these days, the “moderation” isn’t spam filtering, it’s censorship by bullies who conveniently pretend they’re only censoring bullies.
TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
Idk what’s up with your apparent obsession with being banned, but if that’s a problem for you - maybe you should reconsider the way you interact with people on the internet.
It’s really not hard to avoid bans in most spaces. Just follow the rules. Each Lemmy community has a helpful sidebar where the rules are detailed.
My whole point is that removing abusive and hateful content isnt censorship, its responsible moderation. Any online community that allows hate speech is not a community I want anything to do with. If you let Nazis in your bar, you have a Nazi bar.
iloveDigit@piefed.social 19 hours ago
No, you. If you’re using most online platforms without getting banned, you’re not trying hard enough to make the right choices.
Sure, a lot of people find it more convenient to go along with the crowd than to do the right thing. Ad populum fallacy is very popular. It seems like you’re trying to allude to some other bullshit though.
No thanks. Have reasonable rules, or embarrass yourselves / possibly doom your planet by silencing everyone that stands up to abusive authority figures. You’ll actually pick one of the suggestions I just gave you, whereas your suggestions for me are based on an unrealistic view of me as someone spineless, or an unrealistic view of authority as something so inherently reasonable that anyone who makes a rule must deserve to have their rules followed.
Then your point is incorrect because this is a political discussion space. Open a dictionary and check what “censorship” is. It’s irresponsible moderation.
And if we’re lucky, your kind won’t make the planet extinct before being left behind by a more reasonable future majority of humans.
I don’t have a bar or go to bars. I live in the US where it seems impossible to have a non-Nazi bar by my standards, and your standard here is even tighter, to where I don’t see how any bar anywhere on earth could avoid being Nazi by your standards. So a bar seems like a weird comparison for a political discussion space, where the Nazi ones are more like the ones that promote echo chambering to help Nazism rise up (which includes banning Nazi ideas from many spaces)