Comment on ICJ rules Israel must allow aid groups unimpeded access to Gaza
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 days ago‘Might is right’ is the world your wishing for
Not what I’m wishing for, it’s what exists?
What you’re wishing for is some sort of international world police? but this has never existed or had any real power
From 2004:
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 5 days ago
A might makes right world in a geopolitical sense doesn’t exist now. The post war consensus exist, it means nations are self limiting with a floor under which they do not sink. Israel has sunk below that floor, the West’s inability to even recognise that has dealt untold damage to faith in the current world order, but the only other viable option ‘might makes right’ is unpalatable to most powers.
The UN oversees and impartially adjudicates, its track record from the earliest years on leading interventions was patchy at best, a catastrophe at worst. The UN only assembles military force if there is truly no alternative. Haiti might be one upcoming example. So no, i and the UN don’t advocate for some international UN police, it is nation states that make up this world order, it is nation states who must steer it together. The UN is a fantastic, and peaceful tool for that multi state mission, facilitating all with a chance to convince and guide.
In the zero sum ‘might is right’ world everybody loses a little all the time. You have to remember zero sum thinking assumes winner takes all, but it rarely accounts for the costs of a victory. A lesson hard learned with millions of lives.
The rise of zero sum thinking that is implicitly advocated by ‘might makes right’ or Chappelle’s sketch leads to instability, fear and greater amounts of stagnation. A middle power will be a mere play thing in the hands of the great powers, Australia’s growth will be retarded, our freedoms curtailed in service to great power competitions. We aren’t really in that now, and we can avoid that outcome, but not by buying into an ‘us or them’ mentality.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 days ago
He was saying exactly what George Bush was saying but in a humorous way, you’re trying to cling to something that never existed
You can simply look at all the wars China and USA have been engaged in over the last few decades and take stock. There’s a reason we tie our defence to Europe and America, it’s because the UN is utterly incapable of achieving anything other than writing strongly worded letters
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 4 days ago
Strongly worded letters lead to actions and reactions. Its foolish to think otherwise, the power of the UN in that regard is great, look at the news who isbquoted more often the Pope or the General Secretary? Hard to pick which isn’t it.
The UN does a lot more than words,
it adjudicates where no other party can legitimately claim such a role.
it delivers aid all over the world, often in record time after disasters or war. And importantly the people they’re trying to help, aren’t shot.
the General Assembly provides a platform of relatively equal footing where the nations of the world coordinate, interact, and communicate the desires and directions. Communication on such a scale is key for stability in this world, where inconsistencies arise catastrophic blunders can soon follow.
I don’t know IKT, go read some of the UN agencies websites for yourself, see the projects they do, the help they render. This stuff is incredibly transparent and easy to look up.
Lastly, comedians can be great for observations that challenge common understandings, but you shouldn’t draw your understanding of the world from them, they should inspire you to learn more about the subjects they highlight. Dave Chappelle certainly did that for me.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 4 days ago
If “lol no” is the reaction you’re after then yeah, they sure do get a reaction
I know, they appoint some of the most oppressive countries for women as head of women:
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So do lots of charities
I don’t agree at all, we’ve been on the verge of ww3 for a very long time
en.wikipedia.org/…/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alar…
UN or no UN
Clearly doing a lot to stop the war in Sudan… or the war in Afghanistan or Iraq or Russia …
My favourite UN debacle is when China refused them entry to investigate the origins of COVID:
www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00283-y
They are a powerless time wasting body of bureaucrats, I would love to pull Australia out if I could