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rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I see what you’re saying, but I’m not talking about proof of concepts. I’m talking about “fully fledged” Frankenstein apps that get cobbled together by cowboys. Documentation written by ChatGPT that is full of hallucinations. Managers love that stuff because the thing they’ve asked for works but nothing outside of that one thing works, which doesn’t matter because they’re not testing it.

I’m not talking about small proof of concepts. I was referring to myself in a professional capacity as a developer; I’ve been a web developer full time since 2015.

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NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Managers love that stuff because the thing they’ve asked for works but nothing outside of that one thing works, which doesn’t matter because they’re not testing it.

Yeah. That is a POC. It is what you use to get funding, have lawyers write up a patent, or shop around the company

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- rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That is not what I’m saying - the situation I’m describing is the situation I’m currently in: I work for a small web agency, we have the agency owner, the project manager, and the development lead as our “management”.
  
  A client asks for something, the agency owner says yes, and then the development lead cobbles something together over the course of a few hours with results from ChatGPT or Claude.
  
  The thing works, but only for that specific request and cannot handle edge cases, and he doesn’t know how it works nor how to extend it, so he cobbles on more ChatGPT or Claude results.
  
  The management team love it, but it’s just mountains of technical debt piling up.
  
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  - NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    A client asks for something, the agency owner says yes, and then the development lead cobbles something together over the course of a few hours with results from ChatGPT or Claude.
    
    Again… that is a POC.
    
    The thing works, but only for that specific request and cannot handle edge cases, and he doesn’t know how it works nor how to extend it, so he cobbles on more ChatGPT or Claude results.
    
    So… what you are saying is they make something specifically meeting the requirements given to them by the client with no intention of long term support? And that, in the event that you provide long term support, the skillset required drastically changes? Possibly to a more Software Engineering based one?
    
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    rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    It’s not a proof of concept, or an MVP - I’m saying it’s what is given to the client as a full, finished solution.
    
    What I’m saying is that the “this was built by AI!” effect is so strong that copy/pasting ChatGPT results together with no forethought or understanding is miserable and brings only technical debt - but that that’s irrelevant to management, because they’re impressed by the robot and don’t want to “fall behind” other agencies.
    
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