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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes, you’d need AI to exceed the level of detail that is in the film… But it never even crossed my mind that you’d want to.

  I was simply making the point that AI is unnecessary to match the quality of film, with a digital image.

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  • schmidtster@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    See so after insulting me and badgering me that I was incorrect, you missed my point because you couldn’t comprehend the situation where it’s possible. Yet it already is… home videos being scanned and upscaled it’s already a market dude lmfao.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t even know how to respond to this one… You thought I was saying something I wasn’t, and attempted to call me on a mistake I didn’t make, and my taking offense to that is somehow my bad.

      And those scans are being upscaled because old home video formats suck, no one was buying cinema cameras to use as camcorders. And the methods to scan these old formats suck even more, so upscaling has used to create detail to even come close to matching current consumer video formats.

      This is no way equivalent to cinema quality film.

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m not correcting what you said, I’m correcting what you think I said.

  AI could add detail that isn’t there in the film, but it is unnecessary to recover detail that IS there because we absolutely have the tech to get the full detail that is available in the film. No need to make up for lost detail with AI.

  Film is also so so insanely high detail, that the idea of enhancing it further never even occurred to me. It’d be utterly pointless.

  There is only a contradiction if you interpret my words in a way I didn’t intend.

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  • schmidtster@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So we have an electron scanner that scan higher resolution than limited resolution film… and we don’t need AI because the resolution is available if we were to scan it…? What…?

    Yeah that’s contradictory and exactly what you said…… sorry.

    You also said earlier something completely different about film not being insanely high quality….

    I can only interpret the words as you’ve stated them, and you’ve argued multiple conflating and contradictory points.

    So what is it? Limited quality? Higher quality than we could ever see? Can’t remaster forever? Can?

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So we have an electron scanner that scan higher resolution than limited resolution film… and we don’t need AI because the resolution is available if we were to scan it…? What…?

      No, we can scan things at a molecular level, I never said that’d produce a result beyond what’s there in the grain, why would you think I meant that?

      You also said earlier something completely different about film not being insanely high quality….

      I said it’s not infinite, film only carries detail down to its grain size. That detail is still insanely high, but not “infinite” and as such you won’t be able to just keep re-scanning it forever, at ever higher detail.

      I can only interpret the words as you’ve stated them, and you’ve argued multiple conflating and contradictory points.

      No I haven’t, you read meaning from my words that wasn’t there.

      Limited quality?

      Yes.

      Higher quality than we could ever see?

      Also yes. These things can be true at the same time.

      Can’t remaster forever?

      Still yes, eventually you’d be scanning at a higher level of detail than what is there. And by that point, you’d have achieved resolutions that exceed the human eye. Though this depends on what kind of film the master is on. Some works will be on grain and film sizes that didn’t have that high quality to begin with.

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      • schmidtster@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m only addressing your first part and I’m done…

        Because you said you don’t need fucking Ai you clown. Jesus Christ, that’s the entire point of this now argument, you missed my entire point because you thought you needed to mansplain something, and have now caught yourself in a contradictory spiral.

        The other exchange we already solved everything else, there is absolutely usecases where my “hypothetical” situation already happens. Fucking hell

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