It makes you less rational and quicker to instinctively do shit before your rational brain catches you. Those instinctive things aren’t some hidden desires, it can be some random dumbass shit. Hell, people have “call of the void” telling them to do suicidal shit
I think it’s both. It lowers your inhibitions and lets you do things that you wouldn’t otherwise do: dance on a table, go home with a stranger, call up an ex, etc. But, it also breaks the inhibitions on the various random thoughts people have that aren’t “hidden desires” but are just intrusive thoughts.
For example, “I didn’t want to sleep in a wheelbarrow”, sure. But, you did want to lie down. And, the wheelbarrow was right there. Once you were in the wheelbarrow, you didn’t want to sleep there all night, but you did want to relax for a bit.
So, it’s not like “I want this outcome”. It’s more like there were a lot of small steps between here and there, and a rational brain would have put a stop to things along the way, but a drunk brain doesn’t second guess a lot of those small decisions which result in one big outcome like sleeping in a wheelbarrow.
Sounds like cope, or we’re talking about different kinds of actions, but okay. I’ve seen a lot of drunk people do a lot of dumb and horrifying shit and none of it could be classified as instinctual behavior, it was definitely just the shit they wanted to do sober. But I have also done a few minor dumb things while drunk, like throwing up off a balcony; that isn’t something I’ve ever thought about doing sober, but in the moment it happened before my rational brain caught up to stop me, so that sounds more like what you’re talking about, and I’d be inclined to agree to that extent, though I didn’t jump off the balcony afterward, so I don’t see being drunk making people answer the call to the void. I’m talking about people who suddenly become violent or overly sexual when they’re drunk. That’s all inhibition loss showing us the real person without the filters. They absolutely are hidden desires.
People seem to disagree with the way this was said, but I do agree with the premise that I’ve always wanted to do everything I’ve ever done while drunk. I have never once woke up after a night of drinking and felt like my actions weren’t my own desires. If I had, I would never have put another drop of alcohol anywhere near my lips ever again, as that would be severely irresponsible. It’ll lower my inhibitions, decouple me from social anxieties a bit, but that just gives me more spoons to be outwardly social or energetic. I can obviously only speak of my own personal experiences, so I will not make claims about how others handle alcohol, but if I personally felt I wasn’t able to make my own choices while under it’s influence, it’s not a substance I’d ever come back to.
I’d say if it is something you wouldn’t do sober, then doing it while highly intoxicated can be said to be something alien to you, not something you would’ve done normally. But I agree with what @merc@merc@sh.itjust.works (said above)[sopuli.xyz/post/34833693/19520668] so we too might agree but just think about it differently.
It also weakens your sense of cause and effect, being drunk makes it harder to link consequences to actions. I’ve done things that really hurt people while drunk and even while still wasted instantly felt bad cause they got hurt. I definitely wanted to punch my friend for pouring booze on the floor but I definitely didn’t want to crack his rib.
alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
BS. Drinking lowers your inhibitions, it doesn’t make you do anything you wouldn’t want to.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
It makes you less rational and quicker to instinctively do shit before your rational brain catches you. Those instinctive things aren’t some hidden desires, it can be some random dumbass shit. Hell, people have “call of the void” telling them to do suicidal shit
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I think it’s both. It lowers your inhibitions and lets you do things that you wouldn’t otherwise do: dance on a table, go home with a stranger, call up an ex, etc. But, it also breaks the inhibitions on the various random thoughts people have that aren’t “hidden desires” but are just intrusive thoughts.
For example, “I didn’t want to sleep in a wheelbarrow”, sure. But, you did want to lie down. And, the wheelbarrow was right there. Once you were in the wheelbarrow, you didn’t want to sleep there all night, but you did want to relax for a bit.
So, it’s not like “I want this outcome”. It’s more like there were a lot of small steps between here and there, and a rational brain would have put a stop to things along the way, but a drunk brain doesn’t second guess a lot of those small decisions which result in one big outcome like sleeping in a wheelbarrow.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I think that makes sense
alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sounds like cope, or we’re talking about different kinds of actions, but okay. I’ve seen a lot of drunk people do a lot of dumb and horrifying shit and none of it could be classified as instinctual behavior, it was definitely just the shit they wanted to do sober. But I have also done a few minor dumb things while drunk, like throwing up off a balcony; that isn’t something I’ve ever thought about doing sober, but in the moment it happened before my rational brain caught up to stop me, so that sounds more like what you’re talking about, and I’d be inclined to agree to that extent, though I didn’t jump off the balcony afterward, so I don’t see being drunk making people answer the call to the void. I’m talking about people who suddenly become violent or overly sexual when they’re drunk. That’s all inhibition loss showing us the real person without the filters. They absolutely are hidden desires.
silasmariner@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
‘sounds like cope’ in an inappropriate context like that makes you sound, I’m afraid, like a tit.
Foxfire@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
People seem to disagree with the way this was said, but I do agree with the premise that I’ve always wanted to do everything I’ve ever done while drunk. I have never once woke up after a night of drinking and felt like my actions weren’t my own desires. If I had, I would never have put another drop of alcohol anywhere near my lips ever again, as that would be severely irresponsible. It’ll lower my inhibitions, decouple me from social anxieties a bit, but that just gives me more spoons to be outwardly social or energetic. I can obviously only speak of my own personal experiences, so I will not make claims about how others handle alcohol, but if I personally felt I wasn’t able to make my own choices while under it’s influence, it’s not a substance I’d ever come back to.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I’d say if it is something you wouldn’t do sober, then doing it while highly intoxicated can be said to be something alien to you, not something you would’ve done normally. But I agree with what @merc@merc@sh.itjust.works (said above)[sopuli.xyz/post/34833693/19520668] so we too might agree but just think about it differently.
Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
It also weakens your sense of cause and effect, being drunk makes it harder to link consequences to actions. I’ve done things that really hurt people while drunk and even while still wasted instantly felt bad cause they got hurt. I definitely wanted to punch my friend for pouring booze on the floor but I definitely didn’t want to crack his rib.