Meanwhile pregnant women might avoid the safest pain reliever available
More importantly, the safest fever-reducer available. Fevers are actually known to be damaging to fetuses, unlike acetaminophen.
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meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 19 hours ago
puts on logic glasses
Oh look, another brilliant mind discovered that autism was identified before Tylenol existed, so obviously Tylenol can’t cause autism. That’s like saying cancer existed before radiation therapy, therefore radiation can’t cause cancer. Peak necessity/sufficiency confusion right here - apparently conditions can only have one cause and medical recognition equals temporal origin.
But hey, let’s ignore that Swedish study of 2.5 million kids that found zero causal link when they actually controlled for confounding variables using sibling comparisons. Or those other high-quality studies that show the association completely disappears once you account for genetics and family environment. Who needs actual science when you have timeline gotchas?
Meanwhile pregnant women might avoid the safest pain reliever available because some politician decided to manufacture outrage for political points. But at least someone gets to feel intellectually superior about their logical fallacy meme.
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merc@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Hmm, i don’t like your tone, but you are correct. Also, ASD has a heritability greater than 80% which is higher than blood pressure and the same as human height. It’s a genetic disorder.
Also, when was it necessary to differentiate ASD from schizophrenia? The age of onset of schizophrenia is around 18-21 and autism is present practically from birth (apparent 1-3 years). I think OP is wrongly interpreting the Kraepelinian dichotomy which is about bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
@meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz is totally right. The meme is based on a wrong premise.
It claims that Autism was a known thing in 1911 (true), and that Tylenol was created in 1955 (misleading since the active ingredient, Paracetamol was created in 1878 and was in wide use before the brand Tylenol was created). Then it implies that the argument is that Tylenol is the only cause of Autism and then poses that as a contradiction.
Logically, that’s like claiming that some People died in 1700, and that the Ford Model T was only created in 1908 and then claiming that thus it’s nonsense that cars can kill people.
On the one hand it ignores that the active ingredient of the medication was in use far earlier than that one random brand showing up, and on the other hand it claims that the argument with Tylenol and Autism is that every single case of Autism happens due to Tylenol, which pretty much nobody is claiming.
So the meme is just wrong on many levels.
So instead of making up and disproving a lie, why not use actual science? There’s overwhelming scientific evidence that Paracetamol has no effect on Autism.
One might say that this doesn’t really sway those who choose to ignore science in favour of their own gut feelings, but on the other hand, does a fallacious lie sway them?
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I think we can agree the meme is terrible and misleading.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I guess we can.
meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
Well, the OP’s argument becomes nil when it’s based on such a basic fallacy, I mean c’mon. Temporal precedence ≠ causal impossibility.
And since autism-as-symptom existed in 1911 but autism-as-disorder wasn’t differentiated until later, the meme’s temporal logic becomes even more meaningless. lol
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barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
[deleted]Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
The statements of the meme are in mathematical form
A≠B B≠C
Therfore A≠C
which is not necessarily true and what @meowmeowbeanz is referring too.
AlexTheBirb@europe.pub 16 hours ago
This reads like a grok reply lol
rustydomino@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
You’re not wrong. But my guess is that “autism predates Tylenol” is probably gonna convince more people than “large controlled study done by the Swiss”. People are generally really ignorant
Valmond@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
do-you-sometimes-confuse-sweden-with-switzerland
squaresinger@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
How on earth is that a thing? Do Americans just read the first two letters of a name and then give up?
I mean, as an Austrian I get the confusion between Austria and AustrALia (emphasis added so that Americans can also see it), but SwEDEN vs SwISS is just wild.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
I knew someone who lived in Switzerland. Switzerland isn’t part of the EU, Sweden is. That meant that a lot of online shopping sites for EU residents would ship to Sweden but not Switzerland. So, he would ship to his address, but in Sweden. The nice folks in Sweden would say “gosh, another person once again confused Sweden and Switzerland” and forward the shipment to Switzerland, and he’d get his stuff.
Valmond@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
You Australians are so like the Austrians though. /s
Denjin@feddit.uk 15 hours ago
G’day mate. Put another shrimp on the barbie