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• TomAwsm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If you swap the words “fiction” and “fantasy” in your post, it still works.

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  • wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Have you ever read historical fiction? Stories like jane eyre are not real but they’re sensible. A story can be fiction and realistic. You can write a short story based on stuff you’ve researched and seen and it’s still fiction.

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• faythofdragons@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Nah, fiction needs unrealistic elements. You can have realism in fiction, but fiction is defined by its deviance from fact. If a movie were completely realistic, itd be a documentary.

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  • upandatom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This can’t be your honest take…

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    • faythofdragons@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What’s wrong with it?

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      • Soupbreaker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Well, it’s inaccurate. Fiction does not require unrealistic elements. There’s just scads of fiction out there—across multiple genres—that’s set in a real time and place, and doesn’t involve anything fantastical.

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  • wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It is possible to have a realistic story in fiction. For example, Mad Men is a tv series that’s pretty grounded in history but the characters and everything that happens to them are the product of the writers and their research. It’s not a documentary, it’s fiction, but quite realistic.

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    • faythofdragons@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I envision ‘realistic’ as a spectrum. If it is 100% realistic, it’s a documentary, if it’s 100% unrealistic, it’s probably a fantasy movie or something, and most works of fiction fall somewhere between.

      characters and everything that happens to them are the product of the writers and their research

      Like, you understand this is my point, right? The plot is not real, and that’s what makes it fictional?

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      • wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        What you’re saying is sound and I agree the plot not being real is fiction; the only problem is you said fiction required unrealistic elements and most people see “unrealistic” as basically fantasy

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• ulterno@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “can be” ⇏ “has to be”

  And it’s not fiction that sets high standards, but the people watching it, that are doing so.

  Now you may say that the people are setting those standards only because they are watching said stuff.
  But that is just rephrasing, “the people watching fiction are incapable of having their own imagination”.

  Back in school, I had a classmate that had a much greater height than others, due to steroid usage.
  Now if you say that his parents did that because they watched “JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure”, I’ll say it was not released yet and I have no reason to believe that they bought comic strips from another country and went ahead and made a ‘gag’ piece a basis for their standards.

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