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Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 hours agoI grew up needing to be ready to kill, and have almost been killed myself, by an abusive father.
You know what finally got him to chill? My mom fighting back with a clothing iron. Me grappling him to show I could fuck him up now if I wanted to, but chose not to.
You would have a point, if the current government wasn’t ALREADY doing mass violence. What the_fuck_ do you think ICE is doing? Where’s your outrage there, angry dumbass?
The fact you say someone wishing to give the oppressors a small taste, a warning they fucking actually understand and listen to, is being Hitler-like, and don’t call the people literally running camps now that, shows what you really think.
That’s why I left the country and moved elsewhere. Because I knew that if I stayed there, I’d eventually be on the news for something like this, because I have a way lower tolerance for fascism due to having grown up with a literal boot on my face sometimes, as a kid.
And because I knew cowards like you are still way too numerous, too afraid to actually stand up for what’s right, terrified so much they can’t even let people celebrate when the world was made just a tiny bit better by the elimination of someone terrible bringing terrible things into existence.
theangryseal@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
You don’t know me. I’m covered from head to toe with scars from growing up in a world much like the one you grew up in. Hospital trip after hospital trip, police officers taking Polaroids, swearing that my brother and I were wrestling and a mirror fell on me, or my hand got broke because I crashed an atv. I was locked in a room and starved to the point that I was stunted, the only male in my family who isn’t over 6ft tall. I sat in a courtroom after the cotton swab that was shoved in my ass didn’t provide the evidence needed to put a motherfucker in jail.
Somehow, I just don’t have a taste for violence.
I’m not sad that Charlie Kirk died. I’m sad that someone killed another human being in front of the world and I’m terrified of what comes next. I’m terrified that he’ll be a martyr and inspire more people than he ever could have inspired living his life to its natural conclusion. I have no doubt that some of that inspiration will be violent retaliation.
Just like when the moron shot at Trump and missed. You can go back to the comment I made that day. It went something like, “Well, they made him a goddamn hero and the election is over now.”
I think we could have prevented the rise of Donald Trump. I think people like Kirk and Shapiro could be made irrelevant. I believe we can do that with our goddamn brains and we don’t have to be apes to get what we want.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Just because you’re not a fighter doesn’t mean you’re right.
Did your dad stop because you didn’t fight back?
I’m sorry, but you sound more like my older brother than anything. Guess which one of us didn’t get beat as a teen at some point?
A bully doesn’t stop just because you’re peaceful. A psychopath doesn’t go easier on people because there’s less resistance. Even you tried violence - you think incarceration isn’t a form of violence? If you say no, you’d be saying when you got locked up in a room, that was a peaceful action then. But we both know that’s not the case, is it? Even you tried putting the fucker in a jail - just not with your own violence but with the backing of the state.
Trump nearly getting shot didn’t win him the election. Running Kamala as his opponent did, and I had told my family as much back then (this is assuming there were no electoral shenanigans).
And whether Charlie Kirk lived or died, there already has been violence against others. That’s what ICE is. That’s what the gay voice actor for King of the Hill getting killed was. That’s what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
The government is run by people like your dad. Was your dad someone who would change if nothing was done against him? What if now, you made it so he could avoid legal consequences too? What if he knew the police, the courts, etc would never touch him?
That’s what you’re dealing with.
I don’t blame you for being a coward, and thinking being peaceful will maybe make things better. Not everyone has that fire in them. My brother didn’t, and my mother didn’t for the longest time either. Some people do, some don’t. That’s not your fault. You don’t have to support those willing to fight back.
But you sure as hell don’t get to say it’s wrong for them to do so either. They fight so people like you, hopefully, one day, don’t go through the shit you did. They kill if they have to because there’s no alternative left. Had they done so much, much sooner, things wouldn’t have been as bad as they are. But the bullies have convinced the majority that docility will make things better - because having no opposition is what they want.