Liberalism was always about liberties for property owners and boot on the necks of everyone else.
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wewbull@feddit.uk 2 weeks agoWhat’s liberal about what’s going on? It’s all authoritarians keeping the population under heel.
Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
They mean neo-liberals.
This is Lemmy, where auth-left propaganda has twisted the word liberal into something else because they want to normalise authoritarianism. Just ignore them.
ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Yes, liberalism.
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Talk about new-speak.
ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
New to you maybe, but this is old speak. The idea that liberalism means progress and tolerance is itself a recent ideological construct emerging from America’s right wing-ultra right wing political spectrum and like all ideas that emerge to justify capitalism, it is violently at odds with reality. Liberals are currently supporting a genocide here, and for the last couple hundred years most people around the world have associated it, correctly, with rapacious colonialism, imperial domination, and endless capitalist exploitation. Now, given that Orwell was a hack and it’s good to learn to think for oneself, do you have anything of substance to say about this?
Orcocracy@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
More specifically, neoliberalism has always been cruel, violent, and authoritarian since the beginning. Margaret Thatcher was not exactly a person who believed in peace, love, and togetherness.
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Neoliberalism is an afront to liberalism. Please don’t conflate the two. It ignores anything to do with the rights of anybody except the ruling class.
Liberals believe that every person should be free to live their best life, and that includes freedom from oppression, poverty and other social disadvantages. Therefore it’s government’s role to lift those barriers. They also believe that government can be one of those oppressors and so favour regulating as little as possible, but also recognise the need for regulations when it stops the powerful exploiting the weak.
Neoliberals just believe that companies shouldn’t be subject the regulation. It’s greedy, and exploitative.