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WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I know people that only want to rent, they don’t want to own.

you say this as if most people would be like that. whereas most people don’t want to travel all the time, for most that wouldn’t even be possible because of their job, most just want a place to live, and feudalists are taking advantage of (and contributing to) prohibitively expensive housing prices

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tyler@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

you say this as if most people would be like that. whereas most people don’t want to travel all the time

I do not, I say it because it has to be involved in any discussion of ethics. It isn’t a binary problem. There are shades of gray to everything, which people hate talking about.

I know many people that like renting because they want to move every few months or years. Their job affords it (which any reasonable nation also allows), they work remote, or they’re mobile, etc.

Acting like everything is black and white when it literally never is is making it impossible to have actually discussions that enact change.

Wouldn’t you like to travel the world and see the sights? Would you want to have to buy a house and sell your old one every single time you changed countries? I think not.

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- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  where did I imply it is black and white? I did not say that there are no people who reasonably want to rent, of course there are.
  
  but I’m pretty sure that it’s not even half the people.
  
  the problem is not that people who want to rent can’t, they have plenty of options! but that people who specifically dont want to rent, very often does not have amy other choice.
  buying a house for a family comes with a lifelong loan, with all the aid possible, and buying a house as an individual or as a couple is just not possible anymore where I live. unless you have an exceptionally high salary. even just buying an empty parcel or one where there’s only a house so bad it needs to be demolished costs so much, if there’s a habitable house the bank won’t even give a loan.
  
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  - tyler@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The top comment I replied to stated that this was a black and white issue. Either you are a landlord and that’s unethical or you’re not and it’s ethical. You seem to have taken this conversation in a completely different direction. It is solely about whether you can be a landlord ethically.
    
    I also did not assume the majority want to do anything.
    
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