Comment on Bluesky now platform of choice for science community

• underscore_@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Anyone want to build one together? I’ve always been frustrated with the current academic publishing model. Parasitic “publishers” double dipping on authors and readers while outsourcing the bulk of the review work unpaid.

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• JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Why is all of scientific research locked behind paywalls

  Because to advance in your field you need to publish your research in peer reviewed publications and the publishers need to monetise the content to keep publishing.

  It sucks, it works.

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  • OrganicMustard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It certainly doesn’t work, that’s why there exists stuff like arXiv and SciHub

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    • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      ArXiv is just a pre—print, and SciHub is a shadow library.

      If you want an academic career, have your discoveries recognised, and stay in funded research, you must publish on peer reviewed traditional channels. Like it or not.

      Of course you can still do research alone and publish on your website, but hardly anyone would take you seriously.

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      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah that’s why science is such a failure. There’s no actual progress in forcing information behind paywalls, etc. This is a major part of how/why science is used for the profits of the few at the expense of violence, planetary destruction, etc. for everyone else.

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      • OrganicMustard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s exactly the point. If you want to be a researcher right now you have to play their game. You have to publish papers even if you don’t have anything. So people publish bullshit, use chatGPT, force their name on papers they haven’t contributed and so on.

        Meanwhile the science journals get paid by everyone and pay no one.

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    it works.

    You should check out the planet sometime.

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    • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What are you talking about?

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• underscore_@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Anyone want to build one together? This issue, of “publishers” not only double dipping to accept and then share papers especially when outsourcing the review work unpaid back to the researchers themselves, has always frustrated me.

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